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[quote][b] With The Name of ALLAH, The Infinitely Merciful, The Ever Merciful [/b]

Moderators, atleast warn us before deleting some irrelevant(to that forum) posts so swiftly. So that we can have a backup of our posts.

[b]I am very busy these days and can't give much time to these forums for now, but since no body started refuting these claims, I just give a hint on how to refute these claims. So you also refute these baseless claims .[/b]

Mr. Bhavittre, discuss 1 issue at a time.

Your first claim (completely copied from a web site, each and every word, in fact your complete post is copied from a web site)

[quote] 1. EMBRYONIC SEX DETERMINATION

One of the references on human reproduction, which Muslims often quote from the Quran, is verse 53:45-46. This is interpreted as a reference to the determination of sex at the fertilization stage itself. However, elsewhere, the Quran says that the sex of a developing embryo is determined well after the leech-like clot stage!

(53:45-46) 
"That He did create the pairs - male and female from a sperm-drop* (nutfah) when lodged (in its place)"

(75:38-39) 
"Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)? Then did he become a leech-like clot; then did (Allah) make and fashion (him) in due proportion. And of him He made the sexes, male and female" *

* Note the conspicuous absence of ovum required for fertilization.

** This view is further supported by this Hadith: "When 42 nights have passed over the drop (nutfah), Allah sends an Angel to it, who shapes it and make its ears, eyes, skin, flesh and bones. Then he says, "O Lord, is it male or female?" and your Lord decides what He wishes" (Hadith, Muslim, Book 33, No. 6392) 
 [/quote]

(53:45-46 translation analysis.

Some reasons to use you head instead of believing everything others tell you.

1.	First of all there are obvious alterations in your copy/paste web site’s translation “when lodged (in its place)” is not the meaning of the word. The actual meaning is something like emitted/ejaculated/shed etc…

2.	Nutfah doesn’t mean sperm-drop.

75:37 proves this fact.

75:37 “Was he not a Nutfah (drop , drops ) of maniy (semen, sexual discharges) emitted “. 
Now if nutfah meant sperm-drop then maniy (semen) would not have been used.)

Now lets have a better translation with atleast no intentional mistakes InshaALLAH !

53:45-46 “And that HE Creates both of a pair, the male and the female from a nutfah(drop/collection of drops)when it is emitted ”

75: 37-39
Was he(/she) not a nutfah (drop/collection of drops) of maniy (semen/sexual discharges) emitted.
Then he(/she) was an alaqa (sticky clot/ a leech like thing/ something which clings)
And HE Created and perfectly shaped.
Then HE made of it both of a pair (/both sexes), male and female.

I haven’t verified the authenticity of the Hadith you have quoted but anyway again you are bringing the Nutfah issue which has been solved.

Sex determination is not discussed. It is simply stated that both the sexes are Created by ALLAH and in their creation these are some forms. These aren’t sex determination Ayaat and are not interpreted as sex determination Ayaat. They simply state the fact that ALLAH Creates both of a pair the male and the female from the Nutfah. The second one gives more details.

A person feels the great Blessings of ALLAH Who created him. What micro phases man has passed through ! . Man should thank ALLAH Almighty for Creating him and giving him countless Blessings yet in this world of trial.

1 issue at a time !

Edited by: asim2 on Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:04 PM[/quote]

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