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[quote][green][b]ALLAH[/b] may bless you all,[/green]

Last  month Syed Kamran Mirza, in response to my article, mailed me his clumsy essay"Qur’an is the Primary Manual of Islamic Suicide Terrorism"(You can reach it through google search) 
He asked me to reply for this. I made reply to him by this article

[blue][b]Reply to inept essay about Quran’s teachings,' Qur’an is the Primary Manual of Islamic Suicide Terrorism." [/b] [/blue]

In the name of ALLAH Most Gracious Most Merciful. 
[b]black[/b] color denotes Syed Mirza’s wordings and [green]green[/green] color demarcate my answer )

[green]Brother Syed mirza,

Before starting, one thing should be kept in mind that the queries/allegations and it answers are valid only when you have the faith that the Quran is the word of ALLAH otherwise the whole debate will be futile. As it is a proven fact that the Quran is the only book of the world which has been remained unchanged since it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad( peace be upon him) about 1500 years ago. Therefore, gauging something whether it is Islamic or anti-Islamic, one should find it out through criterion of Quran ( its teachings) and if necessary, one may resort to Hadith for further elaboration. But if some Hadiths describe such doctrine which clashes with Quran , one should reject that particular Hadith because Hadth can be molded or even be fabricated but Quran being word of ALLAH never be adapted .

I was happy to receive your article because I was expecting that you would have displayed some solid Quranic quotations which plead suicide bombings. But I was surprised to see your article which is indeed an undue extravagant and hyperbole. The whole structure of the essay is erected upon exaggeration, contrivance and self invented explanation of the verses. There is no single line of you which tends towards logic or fact. 
Your whole work reflects your determination, to down the Islam at any cost. But sorry to say you have downed your intellectual level in this effort. 
Picking verses without context from Quran and giving it the desired meaning is a favorite hobby of some fanatics. You also seem to be one of them. 
As it is said that little knowledge is a dangerous thing, your essay has proved this proverb very nicely. 
No one in the Muslim world would like to answer you as they will take your “Endeavour” as "desperate and preposterous attempt" to down the Holy Quran which always been remained unscathed. I personally feel pity for you because owing to some circumstances, you have lost your sanity. Therefore you have stood against world most prevailing religion, i.e. Islam. 
Despite all which I told, I would not like to lose this chance to clarify some of your points though they are so asinine but it relate to Islam, therefore it has to be addressed.

You did a serious mistake to pick verses from Quran without context. It has changed the whole meaning and purpose of ALLAH’ command. I give you an example from your opening quotation. [/green]

“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” (Blaise Pascal, mathematician, 1670) 
[green]"Men never do evil " (Blaise Pascal, mathematician, 1670) 
I have only quoted the Pascal wordings without context and the whole meanings turned around.

The prerequisite to understand Quran in general or a verse in particular is that you have to study and perceive the conditions and circumstances under which such verse / set of verses of Quran were revealed. 
In the troubled area like Kabul ( Afghanistan) If an American commander tells his soldiers to kill the driver of the car at once if they consider that the car approaching towards them, this will be a special order in the specific circumstances where security hazards would be the top concern. Therefore issuance of that order would imply that this very command is tend to cope with terrorist attacks, aim to kill US soldiers. But this very act ought to be confined to that area where such security hazards do exist. But if some insane want to implement this order in other countries then innocent people would die. 
You have quoted the verses of Holy Quran in which ALLAH commands Muslims to fight and kill pagans and hypocrites. This kind of orders pertains to some peculiar terms and conditions, therefore these orders do not apply everywhere. If these orders would have been applied generally then there had been no pagan/hypocrite in the Muslim state of that time.. But if you could see the history of Muslim rulers from Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him) to Caliph Ali( may ALLAH pleased with him), there were a huge population of pagans living with Muslims. They were granted by equal rights of citizenship like that of Muslims. 
The following verse will clarify the point 
Quran-9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold 
that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle nor acknowledge 
the religion of truth (even if they are) of the People of the Book until they pay the Jizya 
/ tribute with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.

You think that Islam encourages Muslims to kill Pagans but fact is on the contrary. Islam does not allow bloodshed rather only for defensive purpose. Islam even directs its follower to leave its enemies(pagans) if they " join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace) or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people" (Quran- 4:90)
Before the examination of the verses which describe the order of killing pagans and hypocrites, let first know about the circumstances and conditions which Muslim were living in. This will throw some light on the behavior and misconduct of Pagans and hypocrites of that time. 
When Muhammad( peace be upon him) proclaimed that he is the messenger of ALLAH and wanted to show that Islam is the right religion .Most of the people( Pagans) became so annoyed that they became his enemy . They were neither ready to discard their forefather ways of worshipping idols nor they wanted people to do so. Therefore , they used every possible tool to crush newly aroused Islamic voice which was against those false beliefs. They openly denounced the Islamic teachings and its followers. They executed the Muslims and physical tortured the people who converted to Islam.They made life as miserable for Muslims as they could make. At that time trade was the only source of income, they ruined the business of Muslims by usurping the whole money of a person who converted to Islam but who had partnership with them in some trade. They had approach to all major markets of the world.They used their influence to convince the major markets of the world to boycott the Muslims which led to starvation of Muslim community.They made the lives of Muslim population so desperate that Muslims had to leave towns and had to shelter in desolations .In such places they were bound to drink sweat of their horses and had to eat leaves and bushes to stay alive. 
But despite those hard time on Muslims, The Muslim community was on increase. Till a time came that Muslims defeated the pagans in Badr war,with the grace of Almighty ALLAH. 
After that,when the Holy Prophet arrived in Madinah, Islam had so deeply penetrated every house of the Ansar ( habitants of Medinah) that the leader of hypocrites, Abdullah Ibn Ubai became helpless and did not see any other way to save his leadership than to become a Muslim himself. So, he entered Islam along with many of his followers, although their hearts were burning with rage from within. Abdullah Ibn Ubai in particular was filled with grief, for the Holy Prophet (upon whom be Allah's peace) had deprived him of his kingship. For several years his hypocritical faith and grief of being deprived of his kingdom manifested itself in different ways. 
After gauging Muslims strength at Badr many non-Muslim tribes became ready to make a peace accord with Muslims. But eventually most of the tribes couldn’t resist their inside hatred for Islam and they began engaging in mischievous acts.Their main object was to incapacitate the strength of Muslim community. For that purpose they inconspicuously sought the help of munafiqeen/ hypocrites . Munafiqeen ,under the cloak of sincere Muslims did every effort to crumble the unity of Muslims. Time to time they aroused suspicions and doubts in many important matter of national interest. On the occasion of the Battle of Uhud , Abdullah Ibn Ubai committed an open treachery and withdrew from the battlefield with 300 of his companions. One should note that at this critical moment when he so acted, Mushriqeen/Pagans had marched upon Madinah with 3,000 troops and the Holy Prophet had marched out with only 1,000 men to resist them. Of these 1,000 this hypocrite broke away with 300 men and the Holy Prophet was left with only 700 men to meet 3,000 troops of the enemy in the battlefield.It clearly shows that Muslims were in a great peril from pagans and hypocrites .Both Pagans and hypocrites had put Muslims in a sandwich.Both parties had same goal, to crush this emerging power of Islam, forever [/green]
 
Now I will quote( [b]in Black[/b]) the verses which you have quoted to prove that Quran pleads for killing the pagans. In [green]green[/green] I have quoted that particular verse with context which will reveal the real message

Quran-9:5, But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem.

[green]It would better to read the verse 9:5 in the context. Below is the said verse in the context.

9:1 A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His apostle to those of the pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances. 
9:2 Go ye then for four months backwards and forwards (as ye will) throughout the land but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject him. 
9:3 And an announcement from Allah and His apostle to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage that Allah and His apostle dissolve (treaty) obligations with the pagans. If then ye repent it were best for you; but if ye turn away know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject faith. 
9:4 (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those pagans with whom Ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught nor aided anyone against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. 
9:5 But when the forbidden months are past then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them and seize them beleaguer them and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful. 
9:6 If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum grant it to him so that he may hear the word of Allah and then escort him to where he can be secure: that is because they are men without knowledge. 
9:7 How can there be a league before Allah and His apostle with the pagans except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred mosque? As long as these stand true to you stand ye true to them: For Allah doth love the righteous. 
9:8 How (can there be such a league) seeing that if they get an advantage over you they respect not in you the ties either of kinship or of covenant? With (fair words from) their mouths they entice you but their hearts are averse from you; and most of them are rebellious and wicked. 
9:9 The signs of Allah have they sold for a miserable price and (many) have they hindered from His way: evil indeed are the deeds they have done. 
9:10 In a believer they respect not the ties either of kinship or of covenant! It is they who have transgressed all bounds. 
9:11 But (even so) if they repent establish regular prayers and practice regular charity they are your brethren in faith: (thus) do We explain signs in detail for those who understand.

Firstly, If you read the above mentioned verse in context, you can come up with the conclusion that Islam is the most tolerant and peace loving religion. Islam does not want aggression to be shown on both sides. Therefore Islam forbids using force against peaceful people. 
The following excerpts from above verses will demonstrate this fact.

“(But the treaties are) not dissolved with those pagans with whom Ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught nor aided anyone against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.”

“As long as these(Pagans) stand true to you stand ye true to them: For Allah doth love 
the righteous. “

and

“If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum grant it to him so that he may hear the word of Allah and then escort him to where he can be secure: that is because they are men without Knowledge” 
On the other hand most of the pagans aided “others” against Muslims. They broke the treaty of peace. They even discard the kinship for their hatred

The signs of Allah have they sold for a miserable price and (many) have they hindered from His way: evil indeed are the deeds they have done.

In a believer they respect not the ties either of kinship or of covenant! It is they who have transgressed all bounds.

Secondly, ALLAH commands the Muslim not to harm those pagans who showed respect to treaty and abode by that. 
Thirdly, ALLAH commands the Muslims that if pagans get amended then leave them and do not harm them. 
Fourthly, Granting 4 months to pagans meant either pagans would amend themselves within that period or they would have enough time to prepare for war and gather their strength to fight.( This option also eliminated the risk of surprise attack from Muslims side) 
and 
Finally, ALLAH commands Muslims to be so kind hearted that if some pagans want asylum from them, then it is the obligatory duty of the Muslims to keep him/them in safe place. 
If you keep yourself free of grudge you will find that how Islam is a religion of peace and love. The above mention verses present undeniable proof of this fact. The reason behind Islam so philanthropic is that Allah loves each human being ( whether Muslim or non-Muslim )so much, that is why ALLAH has made a religion Islam ungrudging and benevolent for HIS servants .If an utmost sinner sincerely begs forgiveness from ALLAH ,he is not only forgiven by ALLAH but he is then considered as pious man in the court of ALLAH. Therefore ALLAH asserts to be the most merciful of all, even greater than one’s mother. [/green]

Quran-5:33, The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

[green]Again your filthy nature stops you to quote the very next verse.

Quran-5:34 Except for those who repent before they fall into your power: in that case 
know that Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.

The above mentioned verse manifest that “forgiveness” is the hallmark of Islamic teachings. 
But Islam never allow ferocity and strong-arm tactics to flourish, therefore 5:33 describes the basic rule to nip the evil in the bud. 
The verse is clear in the subject matter. More the evil, more the penalty. Less harmful persons will face exile but the murderer of thousand innocent people will be hanged in such a manner that rest of community could get amended from this penalty. 
Islam gives first priority to justice but it also arouses the spirit of forgiveness therefore, it wants " friendly gesture" to be displayed 
Quran-16:126 If ye punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith ye were afflicted. But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient. [/green]

Quran-8:39, And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere (in this earth of Allah).

[green]Now read the above mentioned verse in the following context.

8: 38 Tell those who disbelieve that if they cease (from persecution of believers) 
that which is past will be forgiven them; but if they return (thereto) then the example of the men of old hath already gone (before them, for a warning).

8:39 And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail 
justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease verily Allah 
doth see all that they do. . 
8: 40 If they refuse be sure that Allah is your protector the best to protect and the best to help. 
If some people want to persecute some group of people then it becomes the obligatory duty of the state to crush the oppressor. The above mentioned verses comprise fundamental duty of a welfare state. 
The phrase” there prevail justice" depicts that Islam believes in justice. Therefore Islam does not allow any body to go beyond his rightful limit to curb other right. [/green]

Quran-2:193, And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression

[green]You are a typical shrewd person because you deliberately has quoted the incomplete verse as well as without context. Below is the said verse in the full text along with its context. It will reveal to the world how filthy you are in your fatuous attempt against world renowned religion, Islam 
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors.

2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places 
whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not 
with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. 
2:192 But if they cease Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful. 
2:193 And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.

The above mentioned verses clearly verdicts that Islam is a religion of peace.

The verse 2:190 "Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors" has a clear cut message that Islam teaches it followers to be kind enough and harbour no grudge. Islam teaches its followers to make friends rather than enguage in hostility. But in the mean time Islam does not allow evil-intentioned and hostile persons to carry on their dirty activities. 
The above mentioned verses describe the fundamental right of a state to crush the oppression. It is even included in the new world order. [/green]

Quran-9:29, Fight those who believe neither in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth (Islam), even if they are of the People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 
[green]
How can someone like you say that Quran only pleads for pagan’s killing.Quran clearly states that if pagan want to live in peaceful manners, ready to pay Jizya/tribute( tex) then they should not be harmed [/green]

Quran-4:89— “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades (change to other religions), seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-”

[green]But the context of the verse will reveal the true picture which you have destroyed by presenting the verse 4:89 without context.

4:88 Why should ye be divided into two parties about the hypocrites? Allah hath upset them for their (evil) deeds. Would ye guide those whom Allah hath thrown out of the way? For those whom Allah hath thrown out of the way never shalt thou find the way. 
4:89 They but wish that ye should reject faith as they do and thus be on the same footing (as they): but take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah 
(from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.

4:90 Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace) or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased He could have given them power 
over you and they would have fought you: therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

4:91 Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands seize them and slay them wherever ye get them: in their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them

The above mentioned verses have a clear message to the world that Islam is a philanthropic religion. Its teachings forbid aggression 
“ therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not and (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace then Allah hath opened no way for you (to war against them). “

Therefore Islam does not allow bloodshed rather only for defensive purpose. Islam even directs its followers to leave its enemies unhurt if they " join a group between whom and you( muslims) there is a treaty (of peace) or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people"

The infringement of hypocrites is beautifully depicted in this phrase Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: every time they are sent back to temptation they succumb thereto [/green]

Quran-9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypoc 
rites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

[green]But you did not mention the next verse which describes the circumstances under 
which that verse was revealed 
Quran-9:74 
They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil) but indeed they uttered blasphemy and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were enable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His apostle had enriched them! If they repent it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways) Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the hereafter: they shall have none on earth to protect or help them. 
Now it is clear from above verse that hypocrites tried to double cross the Muslims. On one 
hand they wanted to achieve maximum advantages of being a Muslim but on the other 
hand they were conspicuously working close with Pagans to overpower the Muslims .But ALLAH exposed them timely in this verse. [/green] 
Quran-9:28, O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. (This verse is a glaring example how much hatreds Islam possess against non-Muslims).

[green]you are full of hatred for Islam. This hatred has made you insane that you have forgot even the superficial history of Arab . 
Sacred Mosque has been the place of worshipping for Arab world since the time when Abraheem( ALLAH may pleased with him) constructed Kaba by the order of ALLAH. Abraheem( ALLAH may pleased with him) was a true Muslim and he did not adorn Kaba/sacred mosque with idols nor he ever worshiped idols. 
Arabs were traders and they used to go all parts of the world. Visits to distant countries made them see different traditions ,cultures and rituals .They willingly absorbed different cultural and religious observance in their society in which idol worshipping was major ritual they adopted.They adorned the Sacred mosque with thousand of idols. .Afterwards they began worshipping those idols.More they explored the world ,more they adopted the other's traditions. Till a time came when they had begun worshipping idols stark naked .This obscenity was continuued in the time of holy prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him).Those Pagans used to circle around Kaba/holy mosque nakedly.But when Muslims hold control over sacred mosque,ALLAH orders Muslims to make Kaba free of those filthy idols.As pagans were responsible for all that mess,to mould this holy place into profane playground,Therefor ALLAH strongly forbade the Muslims to let the Pagans to enter into this holy place . 
Would you let your wife or your daughter or your mother to meet nortorious pornstar at your house? I think this situation will help you understand this verse.[/green]

Quran: 9:23: "O ye who believe! Take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love Infidelity above Faith: if any of you do so, they do wrong". [Quran is asking Muslims even to go against their own father and brothers in respect of religious faith]

[green]I asked you if your father or brother tries to usurp your right over your wife and tries to rape her .Do you have ample courage to forgive them. Would you break up your kinship with them? Or will you say forget it? Will you like to keep such brother or father in your house who become proven usurper? 
What ever you decide would be accorded with mundane code of conduct. But religious 
faith is far superior to act upon as compare to this mundane codes. 
As far as your allegation “Quran is asking Muslims even to go against their own father 
and brothers in respect of religious faith”, is concerned, it has to be kept in mind that pagans and hypocrites themselves first of all discarded all relationships for the sake of their falsehood and ready to fight against their love ones
  9:10 In a believer they respect not the ties either of kinship or of covenant! It is they who have transgressed all bounds. [/green]

The above verses (9:111; 3:169; 4:74; 4:95) are clearly ordering devout Muslims “to kill and be killed”; that is, ALLAH is teaching Muslims to sacrifice their own lives (to commit suicide) in His cause (ALLAH’cause) in order to kill infidels

[green]First, I would like to quote the mentioned verses to assess your allegation [/green] 
[green]9:111 Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Quran. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph 
3:169 Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead. Nay, they are living. With their Lord they have provision

4:74 Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. 
Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall 
bestow a vast reward. 
4:95 Those of the believers who sit still, other than those who have a (disabling) hurt, are not on an equality with those who strive in the way of Allah with their wealth and lives. Allah hath conferred on those who strive with their wealth and lives a rank above the sedentary. Unto each Allah hath promised good, but He hath bestowed on those who strive a great reward above the sedentary; [/green] [green]
[green]If a person with proper mental status reads the above mentioned verses with proper heed, he would collect the following points from this. 
1 ----------- ALLAH commands Muslims to participate in holy war ( in ALLAH 'cause) full heartedly. 
2------------ Muslims should bear in mind that fighting in the cause of ALLAH brings about an happy ending. Whether a Muslim fighter survive or be killed but in both ways he is blessed by ALLAH. 
3 -----------ALLAH commands Muslims to be realistic and brave enough to consider the fact that in the battlefield pagans will show full resistance. And as the dynamics of war unfold, You (Muslim) will kill them(pagans) but in response they will also likely to kill you. but those who are killed by pagans in this war are martyr and their dignity is at such a level that Muslim should not consider them dead ,they are alive and begin living in another world under the blessings of ALLAH. 
4--------------- ALLAH commands Muslims to strive in way of ALLAH against enemies of islam, with their wealth and lives.

If one considers above mentioned point #(4) then one can raise the issue that Muslims are directly given commands from ALLAH to enguage in a violent conflict/war with pagans .It may also imply to suicide bombings because it can be a last strategy after all. Answer to this is that the suicide bombing is allowed under the point#(4) but it has to be performed according to following verse 
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors. 
So it is clear that a Muslim can resort to suicide bombing against those people who are directly involved in some kind of conflict/ war with Muslims. But what Jihadee groups do nowadays, killing innocent civilians (whether Muslims or non-Muslims),is totally devilish because Islam does not allow this. Hence it is totally un-Islamic. 
.If you see the history of the world ,you can notice that true Islamic suicide bombings were recorded in the Palestine liberation movement (Against Israel) or in 1971, India-Pak war where Pakistani soldiers attached bombs with their bodies and detonated it to destroy the Indian tanks. Both were fully justified either on moral code of bravery or by Islamic point of view. Both were committed to scathe the enemy But the recent type of bombings to kill innocent people was started in late 90s,though Quran 
has been present for 1500 years .This unjustified suicide bombings appeared when Al-Qaida was discarded by U.S in Afghanistan.At that time Al-Qaida pledged to achieve two main goals, 
to revenge U.S. and to show the world that Al-Qaida is even more effective than ever before. 
For this Al-Qaida needed an army of volunteers who could do anything . 
Al-Qaida masterminded the plan to use Islam for this purpose. They began emotional- blackmailing the people by presenting Al-Qaida as defender of Islam.They used brain wash 
techniques to make Muslims believe that the time has come when Islam needs their contributions and sacrifices to remain alive. They declared U.S. and its allied countries ( including Muslim countries too) as “enemy Of Islam” .For fulfillment of their dirty desires, Al-Qaeda moulded the meanings of Quran with help of contrivance(as you did) . They called each fanatic who kill innocent citizens( in said countries) by suicide bombings as hero of Islam and gave him the status of martyrdom.In this way Muslims are being double crossed by these evil doers, Muslims kill Muslims for sake of these devils.This is the root cause of all prevailing scenario in which Al-Qaida manage to kill innocent people in those countries which are directly or indirectly under the command of US,like Iraq, Afghanistan,and Pakistan. [/green] 
 for the cause of Allah! The above verses (9:111; 3:169; 4:74; 4:95) are clearly 
ordering devout Muslims “to kill and be killed”; that is, Allah is teaching Muslims to sacrifice their own lives (to commit suicide) in His cause (Allah’s cause) in order to kill infidels (enemy of Allah). This single verse (9:111) very precisely 
justifies suicide bombing—the most lethal, most terrifying, most inhuman 
"fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (9:5), “ kill and be killed; i.e. commit suicide to kill kaffirs “(9:111).

[green]You are one of few most imbecilic persons on the surface of the earth who even don’t 
know English language.I am sure if your English teacher comes to know about your interpretation of the phrase “ kill and be killed; i.e. commit suicide to kill kaffirs” 
he( teacher) would be left with one choice either kill you or commit suicide 
You say that “ Kill and be Killed” imply to suicide. You are a pitiable insane because this phrase describes the will of ALLAH which always been full of wisdom 
and justice. ALLAH has made it clear to the Muslims that HIS world( in which we 
live) is driven by some solid physical rules in which “action and its reaction “ is a 
fundamental one. 
In the battle field Muslims have to show courage otherwise they can lose the fight. If 
Pagans show determination they can be triumphants.Before going to battlefield 
Muslims should realize the fact that despite their righteousness Pagan will show 
resistence as this battlefield will put them on their mettle. It is contrary to ALLAH’ 
wisdom and HIS justice to expect from HIM that HE will frustrate the pagans by HIS 
OWN and they will not be able to fight. 
The said verse comprises a realistic tone that pagans happened to be determined and 
they may fight to the end and in the battlefield it is probable that you(muslims) would kill some of them (pagans ) and they will kill the muslims too. [/green]

Quran-8:67—“It is not fitting for an Apostle that he should have prisoners of war until He thoroughly subdued the land….” (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive 
. 47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens

[green]It is strange that you have blamed Islam for doing inhuman to prisoners by verse 8:67 but you yourself clarified the allegation by quoting verse 47:4 in which ALLAH commands Muslims to be kind enough to release prisoners in generosity or on ransom. 
As far as the 8;67 is concerned it has been revealed on the occasion of Badr war where Muslims were force to face comparatively very large brutal force. When War began Muslim's side soon faced a heavy loss of life. At that crucial time ALLAH commanded the Muslims to indispose the rival force by killing more of their men because at that particular stage, capturing large number of prisoners and releasing them unhurt on ransom would meant that Muslims themselves wanted to strengthen the rival party by those freed men. [/green]

[black]Quran: 5:45: We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” (Does this verse sound humane?)[/black]

[green]You are a “total misfit” in this world of reality. Passing criticism on the above verse means that you are a perfect butcher who does not believe on the doctrine of “ life for life and ear for ear” you rather belive in undue revenge. You seem to be the follower of the dogma of “ life for ear or nose” 
You quoted the incomplete verse.There again you are misguided by your little knowldge.I wish if you knew the ABC of Arabic language you would have knew that "Them" relates to Jews and the real translation is

Quran: 5:45: We ordained therein for them( Jews): “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.” But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed they are (no better than) wrong-doers

You have quoted 5:45, this surprised me because this verse is finest example of how Islam advocates for justice. The verse carries a vivid order to carry out justice at every possible level. This verse describes “Law of Qassas” or “Law Of Equality” Under Law of Qassas , Nobody is allowed to go beyond the bond of justice in his revenge.If a person deliberately cut someone hand. Then oppressor should be punished according to the loss he made to the oppressed person.Hence his hand be cut down Islam does not allow oppressed party to go beyond “cutting oppressor’s hand” as it will be recorded as unjust on their behalf. Islam forbids the undue revenge tactics in which one go beyond indissoluble limits in his rage. 
But meantime ALLAH in this very verse advices that one should forgive other as it is a noble deed. .” “ But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity it is an act of atonement for himself.” 
The said verse is a beautiful example of the fact that Islam is a solicitous religion. [/green]

[black]Recently, in Bangladesh (a newly infested nation by Islamic jihadis) has experienced an epidemic of bomb blasts by Islamic terrorists of Bangladeshi variety including scores of suicide bombings to kill judges in the various court premises. In such process of suicide bombing attempts, two have been captured by the police. When asked by the reporters why they were going to kill people by suicide method, they have answered: “We were doing it by the order of Quranic instructions by Allah”. When Bangladesh terrorist leader Maulana Shaikh Rahman and Bangla Bhai have been captured by the police, Maulana Shaikh Rahman said: “We have done it to establish Allah’s laws in Bangladesh and we were doing it according to the Quran.” Showing one copy of Quran in his hand, he (Maulana) said: “If I am a terrorist, then Quran also a terrorist”. What could be the more clear evidence that Islamic terrorists are directly getting incitement and encouragement from the holy Quran? [/black] 
[green]In the end I would like to say that most of the Muslims have shown negligence towards Quran which led them in huge confusion and they turned into different sects.They claim to have faith in Quran being word of ALLAH but they never tried to understand its real teachings by own struggle. They like to embrace a ready -made Islamic version which suite them.For this purpose they fully rely and keep faith on The Mullahs( so-called Islamic scholars) .The Mullahs( so-called Islamic scholars) in the mosques present different types of ideology according to their understandings but their contrivance and exaggeration always have put them at a distance from real teachings of QuranThey only have memorized the text of Quran which they think to be a most noble sevice they have done. They even don't understand what they recite in their daily prayers. They follow a particular school of thought like Deoband, Ahle-Sunnat wal Jumaat and Barailwi etc .Each sect consider itself to be the right kind of Muslim and denounce others to be astray.So these Mullahs always stick to their own ideology..What is science?,what is logic? , what are scientific proofs of quran being word of ALLAH? These topics are beyond their knowledge. They only know that kill the kafir/pagan whether he is Bush or Mother Teresa,for them both are pagans and better to be killed. These type of people guide people about Islam. Tragedy is that people also feel contended to take verdicts from such Mullahs who themselves need to be guided. This indifferent behaviour on muslims’ behalf kept them ignorant of real teachings of Islam. Opportunists like Osama bin Laden exploited the situation. Through organized channels, he succeeded to find out desired candidates to be scapegoated ,who were, in some way or other frusted of their lives,therefore ready for becoming a human time bomb.. 
Question arises that if every muslim would have study the Holy Quran properly then why would they believe opportunist like Osama Bin Laden or idiot like you. If someone misperceives Quranic teachings owing to his little knowledge and act accordingly then he will be responsible for his act not Quran.If someone is psycho and ignorant enough to commit suicide bombing then only obstinate like you could blame Quran for his deeds.

Quran arouses the spirit of love,humanity and amnesty amongst its follower and the above mentioned verses and its explanation have validated this notion sufficiently[/green]
 
[green]syed Abdur Rehman[/green][/quote]

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