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[quote]Dear Samsher,

Quote: I did not avoid anything rather you could not understand my earlier reply dated 20th June, 2006.

I do not agree with your interpretation of using the word ‘BECAME’.

Quote: Iblis was made of fire when God made him a jinn, but before that he was an angel. 
So no question would arise about why Almighty Allah made him a Jinn.

Could you elaborate your above statements more? Are you saying that angels are made of fire too Or Iblis was the only angel who was made of fire?

Quote: Many deceived Arabic speaking people put too much emphasis on their ability to appreciate the literature excellence of the Quran while missing the point of the need to appreciate the message itself, by following it.

As far as the language discussion is concern; let’s forget it. If you could not get what I have written in my previous post; there is no use of any further discussion.

Dear Tilawat,

Quote: You missed my point. In Quran God was not addressing any body but is only narrating an episode.

Who is He narrating the episode? Aren’t these people are Arabic?

Quote: In arabic it may imply anything but when it is being narrated in English it clearly implies that Iblis was an angel.

This is the reason why I said one needs to translate the words in context of the language that is used.

If I say, “I put the cat to sleep” Are you going translate it in Urdu as; “Mai Nay Billy Ko Solaa Dia” OR “Mai Nay Billy Ko Maar Dia”

Quote: What was he doing there in heaven?

There is a difference of opinion on Adam being in Garden [Heaven] or on earth. I prefer the opinion in which the word “Jannah” is translated literally as Garden and not Heaven.

For more information please see the following link:

http://understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=511

Quote: Some traditions say that he was a teacher of the angels. Does it not hint that he was a 'genious', a mutation of angel? In fact all this humdrum of life (Hayyat-u-dunia) is due to him.

You need to quote these sources first.

Edited by: nauman on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:47 AM[/quote]

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