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[quote][quote] Text [/quote]Salaam Usmani

[quote] Do they not consider the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and whatever things Allah has created, and that may be their doom shall have drawn nigh; [b]what announcement(hadih) would they then believe in after this?[/b] (7-185) [/quote]

[quote] These are the communications of Allah which We recite to you with truth; [b]then in what announcement(hadith) would they believe after Allah and His communications  [/b] [/quote] (45-6)

[quote] Both of the verses are having the word hadith.If you will read the both verses in its full context(from the few earlier verses) you will find that Allah is speaking to disbelievers here.[b]Quran's verses are good enough to believe in one God and his Messenger(pbuh).What Allah saying here if these verses of Quran are not working for them to accept the faith then what else will work for them.There no way the word hadith here referring to the ahadith of prophet(pbuh)[/b]. [/quote]

Quite amazing really. God cannot be any more explicit than this but you hadith believers insist that it does not apply to your corruption of Islam by man made hadith. If it does not apply to Bukharis verson of prophets hadith who does it apply to?

Even considering your brand of the translation. The translation states that what announcement(HADITh) after the Quran are people going to believe in. Yet you guys cannot even understand this basic statement that: God forbids you to believe in saying other than the Quran.

[quote] When some one not yet have the faith there is no point,no logic and no need to to talk to them regarding the ahadith of prophet(pbuh).So your understanding that these verses are some how referring to the ahadith of prophet(pbuh) is not correct. [/quote]

You have faith based on prejudices. You do not look at Islam with an open mind. What your idea of faith means is that: YOU REACH CONCLUSION FIRST THEN STUDY THE FACTS BUT YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT THE FACTS AS THEY ARE BUT TWIST THEM TO TRY TO FIT IN WITH YOUR PRE-JUDGED CONCLUSION NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE FACTS GO AGAINST YOUR CONCLUSION.

[quote] Following the Allah commandments and His Prophet(pbuh) commandments are for second stage when the person already declared that (There no gods but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.).Now he need to know that how a believer should live his life. [/quote]
???????

Oh! by the way you still have not answerd my question as to which hadith or scholars you believe is it Sunni, Shia, Whabi or another. A straight honest answer will be appreciated.

regards[/quote]

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