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[quote]salaam

[quote] I am afraid such people cannot be called Kafir. They are neither arrogant nor rejectors like Iblees was.  [/quote]

Who called who a kafir? As I said you need to define what it means. If anyone is offended by a particular label and someone insists on calling that person by that label which can only mean that they are trying  to deliberately offend-which are not the actions of a good muslim/human being.
Besides one can give oneself any label but it is our actions that define what we are.

[quote] Treat these books as historical references [/quote].

I am afraid this is where you completely misunderstand the whole hadith issue. The hadith were not collected to define isalmic history but to actually define islamic beliefs, rituals and were meant to be an integral part of Islam and that is exactly what the vast majority of their followers believe them to be. 
Without doubt the hadiths have been the biggest source of corruption and division in Islam.
At best the hadith were a misguded attempt to redefine Islam about 200 years after the completion of the Quran. At worst they are the work of the devil to corrupt Islam-as how else can you explain the source that tells that the Prophet Mohd was a Paedophile, Condoned Rape and torture without enraging the muslims throughout the history. That is because the hadith have deployed the clever trick of burying these sayings amongst so many so called good sayings that very few intially noticed them and now they are so ingrained in the Muslim psychy that so called muslims will go to bizzare lengths and arguements to justify these hadith.
There is no place in Islam for hadith either as source of history or as a part of deen. For they have brought nothing but destruction to this wonderful religion

eid mubarak to everone wherever and whenever they are celebrting[/quote]

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