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[quote]salaam oosman, I do not think my position is an opinion, but a qur'anic fact. an you have not responded to anything. Just because some women can wear something they call a headscarf badly does not then negate the qur'anic guidance on it. I honestly don't think you read my paper. When you read it and have a logical and substantive response I will respond. I will not do all the work for you. as an example. look at footnote 2 which actually responds to what you said. [quote]Many liberal Muslims try to say that as a khimar can mean various things (refer to endnote 1 above), like a cover or anything which covers, and so they say that we should not limit it to just the meaning of veil. Hence, they say, unless we take a backward cultural interpretation of khimar, we have no reason to interpret it as a head covering. My answer to this is: the correct understanding must be derived from the context in which the word is, in this case the ayah and the Qur’an as a whole. The ayah context is something that the women would have with them, that can be drawn over their breasts, which has a predominant meaning of headscarf/ veil. The Qur’an and ayah context is of modesty and concealing the beauty of a woman. We must note also that when we look up the word khimar (خمار) in the classical dictionaries, the most obvious and foremost meaning is that of the veil/headscarf. To say that Khimar (خمار) means table cloth or some random sheet is illogical within the language/ayah/Qur’an context above (why would women be carrying around random covers?). To say that the khimar is mentioned only as a cultural fashion with no religious significance ignores the -modesty/hiding what contributes to beauty- context as well as unnecessarily ignores the establishment of a normative practice of 1) Maintaining and using the veil and 2) Covering the breasts with it(‘s ends). [b]Consider, instead of Allah telling the women to pull their cloaks or dresses over their breasts (i.e., hide their cleavage), hence leaving them free to wear or not wear a veil, Allah tells them to use THEIR veils to cover their breasts/cleavage (which within the liberalist context would just be an extra unnecessary bit of clothing). [u]This has a dual function 1) It clarified for the women (Some? All?) who wore it at that time with the cleavage exposed (according their culture (Ibn Kathir)) to wrap it around so that they covered the cleavage and it clarified for all later generations that the veil should be put on the head and wrapped around below the neck to cover the breasts.[/u][/b][/quote] Please read also: - [quote] (Zeenat): - Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an* (لغة القران), by ‘Abdul Mannan‘Omar: - “From زان, زينا, يزين… To adorn, deck. Zinatun زينة : Ornament (as apparel or jewel); Pomp. Zayyana زين : II. To adorn, prepare, deck, make a thing appear pleasing. Izzayyan ازين for Tazayyan: To be adorned.” An important usage of this word is in the sense of something being (made) desirable, beautiful, alluring etc… Examples of this kind of usage are to be found at: - 2:212, 18:46, 28:60, 35:8, 41:25, 47:14, 48:12, 49:7… etc… in the Qur’an. Understanding this usage of the word allows us to properly comprehend the usage of زينة in 24:31, 60, to mean that which makes the women desirable, beautiful, pleasing etc…[/quote] This will universally refer to the hair of the women too. and finally: - [quote] * They must draw their HEAD COVERINGS around and over their bosoms. o It is disingenuous and illogical to say that they must/can remove their head coverings to cover their bosoms because: - 1. There is no need to do so in order to fulfill the command. 2. [b]The hair of a woman is a part of her beauty[/b], of what makes her attractive. So it must be covered. o It’s like saying ([b][u]within the context of modesty[/u][/b]) “I was told to cover my navel with my top… so I took off my top and wrapped it around my belly”… Illogical. But this is the position of the liberal Muslim, they say (by analogy), well Allah only said to cover the naval, so covering anything else must be a cultural thing that we can choose to do or not do. o To say that you are not told to cover your head is also disingenuous, because if you are told to cover your bosoms with your head covering ([b][u]within the context of modesty[/u][/b]), it is taken for granted that you are covering your head, so there is no need to explicitly state it. o The Qur’an makes the practice of the headscarf covering the head and the bosoms into a rule. * Consider: - o Allah nowhere explicitly says that a woman’s back must be covered by clothing. o [b][u]Allah nowhere says that ¾ of a woman’s leg cannot be exposed[/u][/b] o Etc… o But they are [b][u]unambiguously implied by the command to hide a woman’s beauty (and what contributes to it) and by the command to cover themselves with a Jilbab and to use the Khimar to (also) cover their bosom. So the argument that the head is not mentioned explicitly (within the context of covering beauty and the mention of the khimar (head cover)) is merely a biased tactic to avoid wearing the head cover.[/u][/b] [/quote] And finally, when you look at lisan Al arab, for khimar (in the context of the woman) [right] والخِمَارُ للمرأَة، وهو النَّصِيفُ، وقيل: الخمار ما تغطي به المرأَة رأَْسها، وجمعه أَخْمِرَةٌ وخُمْرٌ وخُمُرٌ [/right] It is clear from this that the khimar is what the woman covers her head with. This is general. The extent is then defined by Allah's rules of modesty in the Qur'an. Just because some women wear something badly on their head and call it khimar, you cannot then ignore it usage in the Qur'an for your own liberal agenda. I look forward to actual responses based upon logic and not whim. Please take time and effort whoever the next person who tries to defend their liberal approach against my article is. It is a waste of my time otherwise. salaam ps. that link is useless, so dr. zaki says something, so what? unless he can prove it with the qur'an, his opinion means nothing to me. I have provided evidence with logic. respond to that Edited by: marwan on Monday, November 06, 2006 5:03 PM Edited by: marwan on Monday, November 06, 2006 5:05 PM[/quote]
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