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[quote]Sallam all,

Quote: Chapter 4/80: Whoever obeyed the messenger, so indeed he has obeyed Allah…

Traditional Muslims usually try to justify the use of Hadith by saying that Allah is obeyed by obeying Al-Quran, while the messenger is obeyed by obeying the Hadiths. But Hadiths just doesn’t fit in this verse(4:80) at all.

Reply: Who says u this brother?? Y r u spreading false statements from ur side to support u. Even this definition of Hadith and Messenger’s obedience is false. Then y r u bringing such false materials?. For God sake brother, r u passing ur time in this forum?.

Quote: If we suppose that ‘obeying the messenger’ indeed means ‘obeying the Hadiths’, then it would mean that whoever has obeyed Hadiths, by doing so he has obeyed Allah as well i.e. BOTH the messenger and Allah have been obeyed through the Hadith. And if that is true then what is the use of Al-Quran? This interpretation of theirs would mean that Al-Quran is useless.
Also, Al-Quran uses a singular pronoun when referring to Allah and the messenger:

Chapter 8/20: O those who believe! Obey Allah AND His messenger and do not turn back from HIM while you hear.

It means that obedience to both Allah and His messenger is the same thing, and both are obeyed through a single source. That source cannot be the Hadith.

to be continued.........

Reply: Own statements own understanding!! As I told u that u have brought false definition, As ur basic tools are weak therefore plzzzzzzzz DO NOT CONTINUE IT.. thx

Cares…[/quote]

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