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[quote]Salam all

Quote: Brother first tell me that u agree, that Either there was obediency of Muhammad as personal for the people or not? Then inshallah we will discuss how a past person can be obeyed or not.

MY REPLY:- No where Qur’an says that people should obey Muhammad’s personal opinion as religious source. His personal opinion might be  right or wrong.

Secondly, The verse in concerned(60:12) says about the then Women, who came to Muhammad to seek ASYLUM…. Do you know the meaning of ASYLUM? This verse does not say about all the people of that time..

this verse also say to Muhammad that ‘you shall accept their(women) pledge and pray to God to forgive them, [u]when they will not set up any idols besides GOD, nor steal, nor commit adultery , …………… nor disobey your righteous orders.[/u]  [b]This verse does not say any kind of personal obedience of Muhammad.[/b] Now look another verse in this regard;

[60:10]   [b]O you who believe, when believing women (abandon the enemy and) ask for asylum with you, you shall test them.[/b]  GOD is fully aware of their belief. Once you establish that they are believers, you shall not return them to the disbelievers. They are not lawful to remain married to them, nor shall the disbelievers be allowed to marry them. Give back the dowries that the disbelievers have paid. You commit no error by marrying them, so long as you pay them their due dowries. Do not keep disbelieving wives (if they wish to join the enemy). You may ask them for the dowry you had paid, and they may ask for what they paid. This is GOD's rule; He rules among you. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.
The above verse say about the BELIEVEING WOMEN OF THAT TIME who came to the BELIEVERS to ask for ASYLUM with them(believer). In the same way the verse 60:12  says about the believing women of that time who came to Muhammad to seek ASYLUM with him (as they came to the believing men in 60:10).

Both the verse do not say any kind of personal obediency ob Muhammad or believing men…

Quote: Any reference from the Quran, that messengers who do not receive scriptures promote the previous scripture, where I do not still see the difference b/w messengers who received scripture & those who do not received scriptures, if Allah mention any messenger name without any scripture,

MY REPLY:- Please see 3:81 and also the followings;

[u]Messengers sent to confirm existing scripture:[/u]

"Now that a MESSENGER from God has come to them, and even though HE PROVES AND CONFIRMS THEIR OWN SCRIPTURE, some followers of the scripture (Jews, Christians, and Muslims) disregard God's scripture behind their backs, as if they never had any scripture."  2:101

" ......... afterwards, a MESSENGER will come TO CONFIRM ALL EXISTING SCRIPTURES." 3:81

[u]Messengers sent for teaching and purifying a people[/u]:

"Our Lord, and raise among them a messenger to recite to them Your revelations, TEACH THEM THE SCRIPTURE AND WISDOM, AND PURIFY THEM. You are the Almighty, Most Wise." 2:129

[u]Messengers are sent to reveal hidden issues within the scripture[/u]:

God reveals the contents of the scripture according to His Infinite Wisdom.  Some matters are kept hidden for an appointed time that God has ordained.  God reveals some of these matters through messengers that he chooses.

"He is the Knower of the 'ghaib' (unseen); He does not reveal the ghaib to anyone.  Only to a messenger that He chooses, does He reveal from the past and the future, specific news. This is to ascertain that they have delivered their Lord's messages.  He is fully aware of what they have.  He has counted the numbers of all things."  72:26-28

"(Blessings) such as the sending of a messenger from among you to recite our revelations to you, purify you, teach you the scripture and wisdom, and TO TEACH YOU WHAT YOU NEVER KNEW." 2:151

[u]Messengers are sent to reveal issues in the scripture deliberately hidden by the people[/u]:

Many who corrupt God's truth to uphold their own idolatry are guilty of deliberately hiding important issues inside the scripture from the people.  God sends messengers to expose the idolatry of such people and to reveal these prime issues:

"O people of the scripture, OUR MESSENGER HAS COME TO YOU TO PROCLAIM FOR YOU MANY THINGS YOU HAVE CONCEALED IN THE SCRIPTURE, and to pardon many other transgressions you have committed.  A beacon has come to you from God, and a profound scripture." 5:15

Do you see???

Quote:- u people think that they were not given scriptures, but in several places it is said that HE gave them scriptures.