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[quote]Brother Imran
 
Quote:- We must teach people to go back to Quran and act accordingly rather than teaching them to be a Sufi (the terminology which prophets and books of God never used).

This will won’t help much to the people to ask them this,they already knows that.We need to find out the causes why people being a Muslim not even full filling the basic demands of the religion.This what the prolem is and sufia has the answer and the solution of it.

What about the the Islamic universities ,darul ulooms,madersas were as well not there neither these terminologies were used by them and by God either.If there are few  institutions ‘of heart disease and practical application of the religion “ and if a person teach there, given this name its ok.
 
Quote:- rather he referred them back to the sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim and removed all the bidahs and misconceptions introduced by them.

It is a news for me,could you please elaborate it further.

Quote:-If you say that these are just the basic demands, then brother I am sorry to say that in my opinion these are the only demands from Quran for a person and these are the demands which Prophet fulfilled. Prophets life is the remarkable symbolic representation of a person that Allah wants us all to be.

There are some obligatory demands for a muslim.Then there are aslo voluntary work which bring one person closer to Allah.
 
Quote:-If they are in Quran and Sunnah then they are not extra and are not just basic and we don’t need any Sufism to teach us those extra demands.

Common muslims todays who have the chance to follows any scholars others than the traditional scholars or people of Tasawwuf,they very seldom teach them on the illness of the heart like Keena,Hasad,Ghebat,Hube jah,Takabbur,Tawakal,bedgumani,hrss and so on.These illness are already mentioned in Quran and Sunnah.I just talk about regarding some illnesses of heart only there are many other things like love God,fear of God ,love of his Prophet(pbuh) it seems are not much concerns of these schelars.Take the example of the courses offered here at this site.There is not a single course which address these issues.When these issues are not so important for the scholars then how people will learn about them?You may be not felt the need of sufia but there are still few of people who recognized the importance of sufia and felt that they are the blessing of God for them.

The emphasis is given to the intellect in the discussions here.If intellect is the only  thing through we can understand the religion better so to me there must more muslim in the develop world.Having the knowledge is one thing but to implement it in one’s life the actual success.Mufti Shafi Usmani sahib once, while talking the class of his student told the definition of knowledge “ if a person comes to know some thing about deen,so he can not sit with peace until he bring it in his practice as well.There was a time when students of darul uloome deobund have attend a shaikh for certain period of time after completing their education and then only the degree  awarded to them.

Quote:-I do agree to that point but why be sufi to achieve hereafter why not adhere to Quranic terminology and be a momin.

I don’t have any problem with that but remember this term have not adopted by the sufia but this term is given by the people to them.This term is not that important for me that I can’t sacrifice it for you. Only thing is that when I will use the term :momin” in place of sufi during the discussion, people will not understand that to whom I am referring to,so this will not be a fear thing to do I guess.
 
Quote;-Is this the way Prophet conveyed his message to non-believers by teaching them tasawaff or be sufi. Do tazkeer through Quran and you will achieve your purpose.

Not to the non believers but to believers yes.It was one of the job fuction of the Prophet(pbuh) to do tazkia-e-Nafs and to teach wisdom to the believers.Sufia are doing these both things and their way to preching by conducting the Magalis is more closer to the Prophet(pbuh) way as compare to the other ways islamic education these days.

So are you now going to suggest the admin here to include atleast one more courses on the “illness of hearts” as it is missing here.

Regards,

Edited by: usmani790 on Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:34 AM[/quote]

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