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[quote][size=2]Salam,

In continuation of my reply to brother care’s whims…………

Quote:- suppose Allah gives the previous prophets a message saying that HE will give the same message to an other messenger or prophet………. Read the verse again u will find the result.

MY REPLY:- You please read the verse again and see what it results;
[3:81]   GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures.  You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

[u]The verse says that God took a covenant from the PROPHETS saying that HE will give them(prophets) Scripture and wisdom(message, in your language) and afterwards HE says them(prophets) that a MESSENGER will come to confirm what you(prophets) possess and then HE said that you(prophets) shall believe in him and support him(new coming messenger and his message). Then Almighty God said that ‘do you(prophets) agree with this and PLEDGE TO FULFIL THIS COVENANT? They(prophets) said ‘ We(prophets) agree…. [/u]

Do you see the results brother?? Prophets will help the new coming messenger and support him(new messenger and his message). Oh yes.. one thing you said rightly and I appreciate it i.e. this help is not worldly help and for this reason I told you again and again that the covenant was not taken in this world. It had been taken  in the past(worldly sense) and Muhammad was also included in it as he was also a prophet.

My Quote: [44:5-6] It is a predetermined command from us that we send messengers. This is a mercy from your Lord. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

Your Reply: Oh God!, How u changed the verse, it is seeing able, see the translation of others,

MY REPLY :- Let us see the translation of Sakir.

SHAKIR: A command from Us; surely We are the senders (of messengers), A mercy from your Lord, surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing, (44:5-6)

R.K translated as ‘it is a predetermined command from us that we send messenger’ whereas Sakir translated the same as ‘A command from us we are the senders of messengers…

[u]I find no difference from the above two. If you find, please tell me[/u]

Moreover, what is your proof that other translations of Qur’an besides R.K. are right? All the translators translated the Qur’an influenced by fabricated prophetic hadith except R.K’s. So other translations definitely support the doctrine of fabricated hadith. So I think that R.K.’s translation at least free from the doctrine of corrupted hadith.

Quote: this verse is being discussed already so much that I should not say more about this. However, this verse does not mean that Allah will send a messenger after Muhammad for more guiadance of Humanbeing as religion. Even if I agree that there will come a messenger after Muhammad (pbuh), he will not be among us human being.

MY REPLY :-Your understanding is wrong. I never told you that Allah will send a messenger after Muhammad FOR MORE GUIDANCE. The only Guidance for us is Nobel Qur’an and nothing else. This verses says us that the duty of this particular messenger will only to confirm the existing scripture.

2ndly, the verse 3:81 does not say us that the messenger who will come after Muhammad will be from ANGEL or from other creatures except human being. This verse says about prophets, who are human being and naturally the messenger will be from human being.

Quote: ha…hah….haha, what I said it is because of my understanding, and my understand or knowledge never can be equal to what Allah Almighty posses. Therefore I m right to my words, but I think u have full knowledge and confirmation what u know. Is’nt?????? Ha…hah….ha…

MY REPLY:- Your understanding is that ‘I am on wrong path’ as you claimed through your earlier reply, pl. see that. But at the same time you also opined that ‘Allah knows the best, who is on right path’. O.K.

Now my question is when you know that ‘Allah knows the best, who is on the right path’ then how could you claim with certainty that I am on wrong path??? Your own statement contradicts yourself. Not only that, again you claimed that you are right in your words!!!! Brother why do you talk like a frantic man??? Ha…..haha…………..haaahhaa.

To be continued………….[/size=2][/quote]

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