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[quote]Brother Usmani, Quote:- This will won’t help much to the people to ask them this,they already knows that.We need to find out the causes why people being a Muslim not even full filling the basic demands of the religion.This what the prolem is and sufia has the answer and the solution of it. I guess this is not the case. They don’t know that. Look at all the institutes where religion is taught and the significance of Quran in them. Fiqah, Hidath etc are the main topics taught. We need to give Quran in people’s hand so that they can not only understand Shariah but also Eman and morality. Quote: What about the Islamic universities ,darul ulooms,madersas were as well not there neither these terminologies were used by them and by God either.If there are few institutions ‘of heart disease and practical application of the religion “ and if a person teach there, given this name its ok. The Islamic universities ,darul ulooms,madersas all teach Islam. These are institutions not the schools of thoughts. I agree to the fact that each university or darul ulooms etc may be teaching one school of thought. You can’t say that madrasa is equivalent to tasawaff. Madrasa is a place where you teach Islam (or any school of thought of Islam) and Tasawaff is supposed to be a school of thought. Quote:- rather he referred them back to the sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim and removed all the bidahs and misconceptions introduced by them. It is a news for me,could you please elaborate it further. What is Salah, Fasting, Hajj etc. These are all the practices which are Sunnah of Prophet Ibrahim and continued by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) after rectification as a deen in his followers and are not originated by Quran. Quote:- There are some obligatory demands for a Muslim. Then there are also voluntary work which bring one person closer to Allah. Whether obligatory or voluntary the source for both is Quran not Tasawaff. Quote:- Common muslims todays who have the chance to follows any scholars others than the traditional scholars or people of Tasawwuf,they very seldom teach them on the illness of the heart like Keena,Hasad,Ghebat,Hube jah,Takabbur,Tawakal,bedgumani,hrss Does this all lead to the need of creating a new school of thought or a new terminology? Scholars are not focusing on the main true spirit of Islam and stuck in Fiqah and now you are telling ordinary Muslims to go to scholars of Tasawaff. What a utter confusion is that? Quote:- I don’t have any problem with that but remember this term have not adopted by the sufia but this term is given by the people to them.This term is not that important for me that I can’t sacrifice it for you. Only thing is that when I will use the term :momin” in place of sufi during the discussion, people will not understand that to whom I am referring to,so this will not be a fear thing to do I guess. Yes that’s true because they don’t read Quran. Tasawaff has very big impact on the religious understanding of people specially in sub-continet. As a result they are more used to terminologies like ‘Poonchay hoyee sarkar’, ‘Allah Look’ etc etc. Its very difficult for them to realise and ordinary person or a labourer following Quran being so high in takwa that he may have superceeded anyone else in the world. Quote;- So are you now going to suggest the admin here to include at least one more courses on the “illness of hearts” as it is missing here. That is a good suggestion to be honest. Probably we already know the diseases of heart, we need to address them in the way Quran has address them with the solutions. Brother like all other terminologies like wahabee, baralwee etc (I am using these terminologies because these can be compared to Tasawaff unlike universities, or madrassas) all teach Islam but according to their point of view and each has set of principles, guidelines on which that school of thought is based. When someone says wahabee I can understand what it means. This is what I initially requested from you regarding tasawaff. Saying that it teaches Islam is not enough. Regards, Imran[/quote]
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