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[quote]Quote: [red]To me it is very relevant ,its shows that inspiration could also have same level of certitude as wahi have.please educate me if you think I am wrong here.[/red]

Reply: But isnt there any difference in certitude between 'Prophetic inspiration' and 'inspiration of a Sufi'? [u][b]by claiming that they are equivalent, the Quranic claim of end-of-prophethhood is being denied. [/b] [/u]

Quote: [red]Atlest this hadith shows that people other than Ambia can aslo have some message or some thing from God.[/red]

Reply: Yes, but:

[b]1) [/b] As you yourself said "[red]A rulling of sharih can not be taken on this basis of zanni hadith but we still benifited from it a lot depending what its says[/red]", therefore it is not sufficient evidence and
[b]2)[/b] The Hadith shows that that can occur in dream only. Not in the "[blue]waking state[/blue]" as claimed by Ghazali.

Quote: [red]You have to show some thing from Quran and Sunnah which says that other than Ambia can see all this as said above.[/red]

Reply: I think you wanted to say [red]"...other than Ambia [hl]cannot[/hl] see all this as said above[/red]"- Correct me if I am wrong.

Dear Brother I have explained my argument to you. Now it is your reponsibility to refute it by explaining what is wrong with it, instead of just denying it unreasonably. You can bring Quran and Sunnah to explain the incorrectness of my argument. Saying, "[red]Verse 33:40 is not talking about the certitude of inspirations[/red]" does not solve the problem. Prove using Quran & Sunnah that certitude of inspirations has nothing to do with prophethood, it can occur to Sufis as well.  Unless you do that, my claim stands.

Regards,
Salman[/quote]

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