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[quote]Salaam Usmani

Difficult to rationally discuss anything with you as you appear to be obcessed with your scholars who consider thinking as acrime and you appear to be obliging quite well.
Anyway will try again:

[quote] I agreed with you that there are some ahadith which give this kind of impression as you stated. Should I tell you one thing here,you are doing a very big mistake here brother.If you came across of these kind of ahadith which may be less than 2% and due to these ahadith, you thought that the rest 98% are also use less for us.This is where shaitan will more happy than where you thought he is.Even most of these 2% may have noting wrong with them but we are not qualified enough to understand them. [/quote]

Even in this short piece you have managed to contradict yourself. Although I doubt you will be able to see this.

[quote] Your problem is not these ahadith but the Quran it self brother [/quote]

Amazing it must be based in your impeccable logic as displayed below:

[quote] You are not even sure that Quran giving us clear orders to follow Prophet(pbuh) [/quote]

I assume from this you mean that the Quran says follow Prophet Mohd and the hadith are the means to follow Mohd.

OBEY GOD AND THE MESSANGER MEANS TO FOLLOW GODS MESSAGE THAT HE HAS SENT THROUGH THE MESSANGERS. Not what what one particular messanger (in your case Mohd) ate, drank, how he wore his clothes and performed other bodily functions. FOR IF YOU WERE TO BEGIN TO STUDY THE KITAB QURAN (I know you have heard of it because you keep mentioning it...altough it is obvious you have not studied it) YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD MAKES NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN HIS MESSANGERS & IT ACTUALLY DOES NOT SAY ANYWHERE TO FOLLOW MOHD (unless you have different Quran to me).
The Quran, if you ever get to study it, also will tell you that Prophet Mohd was a human being and capable of mistakes like a human being.
Your most absurd assumption is that the hadith are an accurate account of What the Prophet Mohd said or did. Even though even you admit that there are contradictions within them. Hadith are not even an accurate record..They are THE GREATEST CORRUPTION THAT HAVE OCCURED IN ISLAM. So lets not have this nonsence that somehow they are an accurate record of Prophet Mohds life.

[quote] and many of others verses of Quran which clearly stablished for us that the Sunnah and ahadith are the main source of our deen after Quran  [/quote]

And exactly which verses are these? The only time the Quran mentions the hadith is to comprehensively condemn them and states not to believe in this extra Quranic rubbish.

[quote] and without following the Sunnah and ahadith we even never know that how to follow the basic five pillars of Islam [/quote]

Really I asked for the knowldgeable souls in hadith to enlighten ignorant me in how the hadith details about performing salaat from beginning to end. Raushan gave some vague information and Link which suggested that God did not really understand humans and needed Prophet Moses to put him right. Perhaps you will be able to explain Salaat from start to finish as mentined in hadith.

[quote] Forget about the rest of duties which Quran ask us to do [/quote]
You already do this by ignoring the Quran when it tells you not to believe in any hadith other than the Quran.

[quote] You your self is a teacher how can you thought like that Just the books could be good enough and there is no need of a teacher to explain it and demonstrate  [/quote]

I am glad we dont share the same books or the teachers.

[quote] it for the students than how can you though that God will do it.Very funny really. [/quote]
!!!!!!!!

regards[/quote]

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