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[quote]Salam,
 
R:- You have done a mistake. Here your statement should be [red]‘it is useless to discuss with you(samsher) about HISLAM, not Islam’[/red]. Do you understand brother?

2ndly, you asked for historical proof regarding the ‘SOURCE OF ISLAM’. Alas!!! [u]I have given you QUR’ANIC PROOF (6:114-115) numerous time but you are not satisfied with that[/u], rather you claimed for historical proof, why not? [u]You people believe in history more than the word of Almighty Allah!!! Brother, when you are not been able to hear, listen or understand the Almighty God’s word, then who am I??? [/u] Also it is not possible for me to hear you type of people. Now once again you pl. try to understand the meaning of the following verses.

[2:1-5]   A.L.M. This scripture is infallible; a BEACON FOR THE RIGHTEOUS; WHO BELIEVE in the unseen, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and from our provisions to them, they give to charity. And they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, and with regard to the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain. THESE ARE GUIDED BY THEIR LORD; THESE ARE THE WINNERS.

[10:37]   THIS QURAN COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE AUTHORED BY OTHER THAN GOD. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from the Lord of the universe.

The believers believe/depend on the above words of God. They do not require  any conjecture/contradiction/history to know that the Qur’an is the word of God and also they do not require any history to know that Qur’an revealed to Prophet Muhammad. (2:97, 185, 6:19, 10:37, 15:87). [red]Most importantly, Qur'an does not say a single word in favour of continuity & consensus taking them as Source of Law(religious)[/red]

Moreover, anything that comes from other than God is full of contradictions (4:82). So your history is full of contradictions.

We can read ANYTHING, BUT CAN’T TAKE THEM AS ‘SOURCE OF LAW(Islamic religious)’. Our only source of law is QUR’AN(6:114).

Almighty Allah promised to PRESERVE THE QUR’AN (15:9). It reached us through this preservation. 2ndly, Qur’an says Religion(Islam) is completed through the revelation of Qur’an i.e. Islam completed during the life time of Muhammad by the Qur’an (5:3). [u]So, your twatur, ijmaa are not the part(s) of Islam.[/u]

Why do you argue in support of  continuity & consensus?? According to qur’an these have no value(towards SOURCE OF LAW) in our religion. I am giving you here three points in favour of my opinion, pl. see;

[b]1st point :- [/b] previous scriptures i.e. Torah, Injeel etc..etc.. also the hadith of Moses i.e. Mishna, Zemarrah and the hadith of Jesus i.e. Trinity…… all these are reached to present day’s Jewish, Christians through CONTINUITY & CONSENSUS of their nations. Now question is  SHOULD ALL THESE BE CONSIDERED AS THEIR OR OUR RELIGIOUS SOURCES?? If not, then Why? If your criterion(furqan) about religion is Continuity & consensus, then all the above must be considered as sources of religious law? Is not it???

2nd point :- Please read the following verse and consider;

[2:170]   When they are told, "Follow what GOD has revealed herein," they say, "We follow only what we found our parents doing." What if their parents did not understand, and were not guided?

The above verse clearly condemns to follow the acts of people what their parents are following. The verse also Orders to follow only the REVELATIONS.

According to your theory(continuity & consensus) it is logical to think that the PARENTS mentioned in the above verse are following the practices which reached to them through their previous generations i.e. reached through continuity & consensus of their nations. Then why this verse condemned to follow these acts of the parents? Moreover, the next verse says that those who only followed the acts of their parents(which came through continuity, consensus) are DISBELIEVERS, DEAF, DUMB AND BLIND…

[2:171]   The example of such disbelievers is that of parrots who repeat what they hear of sounds and calls, without understanding. Deaf, dumb, and blind; they cannot understand.

To be continued………[/quote]

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