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[quote]Salam Br. Ibrahim,

Q:- Yes I've asked again for a Historical Proof & I'll Carry on asking for it as our Holy Quran is a PART of History. I can leave my Demand ONLY if You Deny this HISTORICAL FACT that Quran was Actually Revealed to Our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) about 1450 years AGO. Do U DARE to DENY it?

R:- I know you and only you type of people can ask this type of idiotic question again & again. I don’t mind anyway. You say Qur’an is a part of History. In one side you claim that you believe history and Qur’an is a part of History [b]but when Qur’an (your history or part of history ) says that the Only Source of Law of Islam is Qur’an Itself, then you do not believe your this history. What a shameful!!!.[/b]

2ndly, history is not the subject of our discussion. [u]Our discussion is what is Source of Law of Islam[/u]. I already told you that [red]historicity of the Quran is not an issue to those who already accept it as the Word of God. To them, the Quran is the first truth, against which everything else must be compared. Nor does the Quran depend on the opinions of historians to give it importance.[/red] [b]Yes, it is the issue of those who can not accept it (Qur’an) as word of God besides the help of other source i.e. history etc…etc…[/b]

Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad and Almighty God told it to us through the Qur’an( I already gave you references from the Qur’an in that respect). I do not require any fabricated history to know this. Oh, yes 1450? It has no value in Islam.

Q:- We may Talk about OUR difference in our Understanding of Quran but LATER, 1stly I need YOUR Answer of my Q. about the Historical Proof.

R:- I have already given my opinion in this regard. [u]Please give your answer regarding my 3 POINTS, which I asked you through my previous post.[/u]

History came from men and it contains numerous contradictions, but Qur’an does not(4:82). What is your historical proof that Almighty God exists? Brother, it does not require any historical proof as it does not require (For Those Who Believe) any historical proof for the Qur’an.

[2:2-4]

This scripture is infallible; a beacon for the righteous;

who believe in the unseen, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat), and from our provisions to them, they give to charity.

And they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you, and with regard to the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain.

Please read the above words given by God, which explain how the believers believe in the Qur’an.

The words;

[red]“they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you”[/red]

And The words;

[red]“who believe in the unseen”[/red]

[b]That is how the believers believe in the Qur’an, not because  history says us. We can’t believe in something just because history tells us to believe it. [/b] [u]Brother, do you know the  history of mankind, which says us that  the man was created from monkey through gradual development(Darwin’s Theory)? Brother do you believe on this theory? Does Qur’an support this theory? Qur’an does not support this.[/u] So I am once again telling you that;

[b][red]“The Quran Is The First Truth, Against Which Everything Else Must Be Compared. Nor Does The Quran Depend On The Opinions Of Historians To Give It Importance”.[/red][/b]

Q:- & one MORE thing, This is NOT the CASE of Believing More in History THAN Quran. Plz Don't TRY to MIX things in a NON-Scholarly WAY.

R:- Yes, I think this is. If not then you would have been depended only on the Qur’an, not on history and consider it as proof that Qur’an is the word of God. [b]Don’t try to bypass this issue by hook or by crook.[/b] You adopted history(contradictions) as proof that Qur’an is the word of God!!!.

To be continued………..[/quote]

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