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Q:- Br. We too Believe that "Islam completed during the life time of Muhammad by the GOD" but this COMPLETE Religion is Reaching YOU n ME via "Twaatur n Ijmaa". Plz Try to Understand Our pt. of View at LEAST n I hope that NOW You'll Understand the REASON of Our INSIST on "Twaatur n Ijmaa".

R:- Do you really believe that ‘Islam was completed during the life time of Muhammad by the God through the Nobel Qur’an’?? If yes, then why do you believe that Prophetic Hadith besides Qur’an is ANOTHER SOURCE OF LAW OF ISLAM  WHEN ISLAM HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED THROUGH THE QUR’AN DURING THE LIFE TIME OF MUHAMMAD? If you really believe that Islam was completed through the Nobel Qur’an, then Why Do You Not Believe That The Qur’an’s Word Is The Final Word In Respect Of Religion Islam????

Q:- Br. That's Where Your Misunderstanding LIES. No ONE even the Christians n Jews have EVER Claimed that there is a CONSENSUS on the BIBLE (Total of All Pre. Scriptures) n it Fulfill the Condition of CONTINUITY. As U have said, Its a Mixture of Divine Scriptures, Ahadith of Moses, Jesus n of their All other Prophets, Biography of Prophets, History of that time & So on so Forth & MOST ImportantlyDiff. Parts of BIBLE are Either "Riwayat" of a Companion (like All Injeels) or Have been Written By a BOARD of their SCHOLARS (as text Books are Written). Therefore, there is NO question that ALL THESE are GOD Given SOURCES??

R:- Brother, don’t try to bypass my main point, which is Qur’an does not say even a single word about continuity, consensus taking them as source of law of islam.

2ndly, you said  that ‘No ONE even the Christians n Jews have EVER Claimed that there is a CONSENSUS on the BIBLE (Total of All Pre. Scriptures) n it Fulfill the Condition of CONTINUITY’.

>>>>>>Then in what manner All these reached to the present days’ Jews & Christians community??? How could you say that no one amongst Christians and Jews claims so??? I have many Christian friends and  they also claim that their scriptures came to them through the process of continuity……..

You said  “Importantly Diff. Parts of BIBLE are Either "Riwayat" of a Companion (like All Injeels) or Have been Written By a BOARD of their SCHOLARS”

>>>>>>>How the BOARD OF SCHOLARS Written these without any consensus of their opinion and how it reached to present day without consensus, continuity????

Q:- The Case of Islam is Totally Different. Quran n Sunnah are its PRIMARY SOURCES n BOTH are in their PRESERVE FORM; 1st is Wordly n 2nd is Practically. That's Why HADITH is NOT Taken as Primary Source as It Does NOT Fulfill the Conditions of "Continuity & Consensus"
I hope that From My Explanations it's Also Crystle Clear that "Continuity & Consensus" does NOT fall in the Category of "following the BASELESS practices of PARENTS" that Have Been condemned in the Quran.
Moreover, its your misunderstanding again that the acts of their parents have come through continuity n consensus to next Generation.
In Contrast, That's ONE of the MAIN Critisizm of Quran against them

R:- What does mean to say SUNNAH? SUNNAH means practice i.e. what Muhammad practiced is called SUNAH. Muhammad did not practiced anything BESIDES QUR’AN. So Qur’an was the practice of Muhammad. Am I right brother?? Source of Law of Muhammad was ONE i.e. QUR’AN not two and the SOURCE OF LAW OF ISLAM for us is also ONE i.e. QUR’AN not two as you claimed. There is not a single word in the Qur’an saying ‘Sunnah of Muhammad’. I again say ” THE QURAN IS THE FIRST TRUTH, AGAINST WHICH EVERYTHING ELSE MUST BE COMPARED”. We should not accept anything as Islamic which is not in the Qur’an. We should rule only in accordance with Qur’an.

I am glad to know that you are believing now that Hadith are NOT ANY SOURCE OF ISLAM. Thank you.

You said “, its your misunderstanding again that the acts of their parents have come through continuity n consensus to next Generation”.

>>>>> Then brother, could you please describe ‘how it came to them, if not through continuity………..’?

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