Studying Islam

Post Reply

Username

Invalid Username or Password

Password

Format

Message Icon

Message

- Forum Code is ON
- HTML is OFF

Smilies

[quote]PRINCIPLE 3 : The Quran is consistent internally. 
 
The Quran DOES use the words 'hadeeth' and 'sunnah'. For example :

1.Such are the Signs of God, which We rehearse to thee in Truth; then in what HADEETH will they believe after God and His Signs? (Quran 45.6)

2. Do they see nothing in the government of the heavens and the earth and all that God hath created? (Do they not see) that it may well be that their terms is nigh drawing to an end? In what HADEETH after this will they then believe? (Quran 7.185)

3. Then what HADEETH after that, will they believe in? (Quran 77.50)

4.God has revealed  the most beautiful HADEETH (Quran 39.23)

As we can see, even though the Quran is consistent internally, it NEVER uses 'hadeeth and sunnah' to mean 'hadeeth and sunnah of Muhammad'. This was a later invention of Sunni scholars who even opposition for thier innovation.

PRINCIPLE 4 : In order to accept something as knowledge, we must either HEAR it, SEE it, or use reason to determine it 
 
Hadeeth and Sunnah by its very nature completes goes against this 4th principle. The hadeeth collection of the Sunnis came into their final nearly 200 years after the Prophet. The compilers of hadeeth had no way of knowing if the hadeeth actually came from the narrator or not. Instead , they relied on either oral and written reports. As for the use of reason, there is very little or none. Some hadeeth exhibit an utter disregard for reason and blatant contradiction to the Quran itself. Furthermore, hadeeth collections have so many classifications by so many scholars, it's impossible to accept any hadeeth, since even Sahih al-bukhari , 'the second most correct book after the Book of Allah' according to sunnis are found with hadeeth which have been re-classified.

PRINCIPLE 5 : If anything is from God, it should not have any inconsistencies. Anything from mankind will have MANY contradictions.

The most blatant contradictions of the hadeeth and sunnah is with the Quran itself, for example , the practices of :

1- stoning

2- punishing apostates

3-the wearing of veils for women

4- the institution of forbidden foods (even though the Quran explicitly states that it's the only source to forbid anything)

Moreover, hadeeth and sunnah are in contradiction with themselves. This is shows by the three versions of the farewell sermon , witnessed by TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE. The three versions are :

Follow Quran and Sunnah (from Muwatta of Malik)

Follow Quran and Prophet's Family (from Sahih al-Muslim)

Follow Quran alone (from Sahih al-Muslim)

And worse still , all three versions are canonized permanently by books of hadeeth !

PRINCIPLE 6 : The Quran is the ONLY criteria(Furqan).

If we look closely, it's principle 6 which sums everything up most clearly. The Quran is the starting point, the definition point [red]by which all Islamic institutions must be judged[/red]. Principle 6 is really the sum of Principles 1 through Principle 5. [u]Hadeeth and sunnah have failed the Quranic test.[/u]

Samsherali[/quote]

Mode

Check here to be notified by email whenever someone replies to your topic

Show Preview