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[quote][hl]Yet I feel that the fillowing verse copntains hope for such people.

Maryam (Mary)

ثُمَّ نُنَجِّي الَّذِينَ اتَّقَوا وَّنَذَرُ الظَّالِمِينَ فِيهَا جِثِيًّا

19:72 And once again:   We shall save [from hell] [hl]those who have been conscious of Us; [/hl] but We shall leave in it the evildoers, on their knees.[/hl]

Brother now we are back to square one, I have already answered this point before, i'll answer again. You are quoting out f context, look at the previous verses

[blue](190: 68-72)
&quot; So, by thy Lord, without doubt, We shall gather them together, and (also) the Evil Ones (with them); then shall We bring them forth on their knees round about Hell; Then shall We certainly drag out from every sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against (Allah) Most Gracious. And certainly We know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein. Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished. But We shall save those who guarded against evil, and We shall leave the wrong-doers therein, (humbled) to their knees.&quot;[/blue]

Now it is clear from the above verses that on the day of judgement everybody will pass through Hell, from where Allah says He will save those who guarded themselves against evil, and leave the evil doers there.

[hl]Maryam (Mary)

ثُمَّ لَنَحْنُ أَعْلَمُ بِالَّذِينَ هُمْ أَوْلَى بِهَا صِلِيًّا

19:70 for, indeed, [hl]We know best[/hl] as to which of them is most deserving of the fires of hell.[/quote][/hl]

[black]Yes, that is what I have been meaning from the start. Only Allah knows the best, so how can we Muslims think that we'll go to heavens eventually, Allah hasn't promised anything like this, and besides there are two purposes of mentioning about Israelities in the Quran, 1st to revert the those astrayed Israelities present at the time of Holy Prophet (PBUH) , 2nd to make us Muslims learn from their example so we may not do the same. But unfortunately if you look around and think, you will see that we Muslims are pretty much repeating the mistakes Israelities made. Why? Because we donot know what the quran tells us.
NOw coming back I would say again &quot;or is it that ye say of Allah what ye do not know?&quot;[/black][/quote]

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