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[quote]AOA,

A very informative and very important discussion is going on. Here is what my understanding is.

First everything is in the hands of Allah. What does this mean. As mentioned in Quran: When he says/wishes/orders something it happens. The question is that how it happens. In my understanding we shoud say: Whenever he(Allah) says/wishes something, it happens according to its principles. He has made a setup for the happening of each and everything. It does not happen abruptly.

God has developed a system for life and he given human beings brains to understand the phenomemen involved. When the system goes wrong, there is a cure for it, another system. It does not automatically cures or goes right by itself. What we do is that we understand that system and thats it.

The computer through which we are communicating is made by someone. When we appreciate it, in fact we are not appreciating the machine, we are actually appreciating the manufacturer(the originator). The proper functioning of this computer depends upon the specifications provided by the manufacturer. When it goes wrong we try to find out what is wrong and then try to fix it. If we supply 440 volts rather than 220V then system will blow up and no longer usable. Sometimes the Windows goes corrupt, we repair it by installing the Windows again. And after sometime the system will be of no use coz the technology might has changed. The computer has fullfiled its purpose. What a computer technician is doing is putting back things to thier prescribed state.

Same is the case with human life. He is here for a trial period. When that period is over no one can save him. He has to go. And between the peiod of his birth and death things might go wrong. What the doctors do, try to put the system back to their original or working state letting that human to wait for the end of his trial peiod. This all is the system. Human has the same importance as that computer technician has. Understand the sysetm, think and act accordingly.

The actual problem is that unlike real life, when it comes to relationship with Allah we confuse it. What i think it rather than complicating things, we should try to understand the principles on human level with examples from our daily happenings. This is how Quran explain things. What is God's introduction to humans. We dont recognise him physically coz we cannot.We dont have the capability. Rather Quran introduces him through his propertis (Sifat) the partial reflection of which we can see in every human being. So think as a human not as a God.

Second the concept of Dua. The principle of ALlah through which he regulates the lives is that the humans have the control over their efforts. The outcome of their efforts, Allah has kept in his hands. This principle is so common that we can easily observe it in our daily lives. ( Its another issue that happening and not happening of things is again regulated by another principle of God that is the pricipal of trial). So offering dua means saying that Allah I have done all my possible efforts, now its your turn to make it happen if its good for me. Rather what i personally think that doing efforts while keeping in mind that the outcome of this is in hands of Allah is itself offering Dua. So the effort is itself a Dua which is translated into words afterwards.

So in short ( after such a long writing which might be boring) we should try to understand the matters of God being a human being not by standing at the position of God. This is the biggest mistake the philosphy has committed.

This all is my personal opinion. Definitely would like to hear further on this topic.

Remember me in your prayers

Allah Hafiz
Imran Yousuf[/quote]

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