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[quote][quote]How was the start of Isya' timed? The sun had set so there were no shadows from a man or a stick to measure time. Same for Fajar.[/quote]
[blue]Where is &quot;the requirement of shadows from a man or a stick&quot; mentioned in the Hadith I quoted?

Please read again. &quot;.......The time for Maghrib lasts until the twilight has faded.&quot; ........(Narrated by Muslim, 612).

The time for ‘Isha’ starts immediately after that.

This hadeeth clearly explains the timings of the five daily prayers.

Also here is a recap of what I had posted earlier in another thread..

4:59 (Y. Ali) O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger,.........

This clearly shows that according to Qur'an Allah and Muhammad are separate to obey.

In Surah 66:3, the Prophet told his wives that he knew because Allah had informed him about it. Show me a Quranic verse where Allah had informed the Prophet about it. You cannot. This proves that there are revelations to Prophet Muhammad besides the Quran.

Surah 2:143 shows that Allah (swt) gave an order for the Muslims to change their Qibla from (Bayt Al Maqdis in Jerusalem) to the Kabah in Mecca. However, there is no Quranic verse that shows the first order that Allah gave to make the Qibla towards Jerusalem. This is another proof that there are revelations to Prophet Muhammad besides the Quran.[/blue]

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