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[quote]Assalamu Alaykum

Brother Hashmi, I am agreed in principal with the methodology you propose in order to decipher the 'clear' message of the Quran.  It is sound.

I am somewhat unclear with your analysis of the discrepancy between the prophet's established practice in his own home(ie. not hitting his wives) and the Quranic "allowance" of light beating to restore order.
Are you saying that the beating has been "allowed" and not "encouraged"? If this is the case I agree completley, however it still leaves me with the impression that this "allowance" has been made in the same sense that an "allowance" was made for slavery.

Is this completley impossible? Slavery was deeply rooted in society and as such Allah(swt) in his Infinite wisdom proscribed limitations and clear guidelines to improve the lot of the common slave, could we not say that misogyny towards women was also deeply rooted in society and as such Allah laid down provision to improve the lot of women inasmuch as it was possible in that particular context? If looked at this way, the  "allowance" to "lightly" hit rebellious wives is a great improvement from the jahilliyah custom of doin what they pleased with their women.

I'm really not just arguing for the sake of it brother, and honestly I know that in view of my limited knowledge I should refrain from offering my "opinions" on Islam. But being in social work and having seen the results of homes in which physical abuse takes place I have trouble with our insistence on maintaining this practice.

An intelligent man would fear Allah and take his responsibility (and corresponding right to disciplne his wife physically) seriously and would not transgress the commmand to offer "light" admonition but on the other hand there are men who would "abuse" this right  and make me hesitant to allow wife beating under any circumstances.

Anyhow, I really appreciate your willingness to continue this dialogue with me inspite of my stubborness, but I promise you that I remain open to changing my point of view if you give me adequate reason to do so.

Thank you brother.

Wasallam

Edited by: locust on Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:47 PM[/quote]

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