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[quote]I personally dont agree with the beating injunction, for a woman is a grown up adult as opposed to a naive child. No wonder while many sane Muslims read the verse, in actual truth they claim what you have:

>>I personally have resolved to never hit my wife (once I get married, insh'Allah) as I'm sure I can find other ways I can fulfill my responsibilities.

And this goes back to my earlier point that even under severe circumstances we have counselling/psycotherapy or the like to be used as opposed to beating.

Times have changed. Women are not like Hinda who would chew the liver of a dead man. Times simply are not the same.

>>NO notable scholar has ever suggested that hitting the wife is to be as serious a thing .....

But very few scholars have either stressed the converse, that it is condemnable to hit a woman this day and age.

>>similarly if a wife is found to be involved in a sin, threatening her like not allowing to share credit card, cutting pocket money down . restricting holiday trips/shopping etc cn b used instead of physically beating

But then the Divine could have used some other word rather than 'beating'?

All I am trying to do is resolve the inconsistencies for myself.

1) The main point is that when you ask any scholar about wife beating, he will tell you that it is to be used a last resort and also implemented with siwak. This is absurd, for a woman is not a child. Also, this stance is quite paternalistic.

2) Then there are the likes of Taliban who have used canes, which is simply barbaric. Have Muslim scholars voiced vehemently against their treatment of woman.

3) Then there are Muslim feminists like Riffat Hassan and Fatima Mernissi, who claim that the word beating is infact the word confinement. This approach reeks of twisting words.

4) Then so called Muslim lesbians like Irshad Manji, who claim that with verses such as these Islam is outdated.

5) My issue is that the Divine could have used a different word in place of beating. But he did not. Given women like Hinda perhaps 'beating' worked in the tribal 7th century Arabia. But not any more.

So the alternative I offer is that this verse may be treated as time specific as we treat verses from Surah tauba on Jihad.

But I am no scholar. And obviously, there could be a better explanation.

Edited by: junaidj on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:06 PM[/quote]

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