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[quote]Dear Atifrafi The verse 57:27 now you have quoted with translation, is what I had also quoted to the nearest translation. The phrase “Among them who believed” is taken by you as the people who invented Monasticism. The same phrase taken by me is all believers. A believer to be a believer must believe in what Allah has ordained. Not that he invent something and assign that to Allah. Such a practice is not acceptable to Allah. It is like assigning falsehood to Allah. Hence Allah never accepted their Monasticism. Hence, rewarded those who DID NOT invent Monasticism but remained as believers. Any invention other than prescribed is not acceptable to Allah. This has also been confirmed by our Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam saying that no invention in Deen is acceptable. This is the way of going astray and all such acts will lead to Jahannam. There is no question of Allah rewarding the inventors of Monasticism. Since you are quoting with verse, I have to clarify. Is it not your duty to search for proper knowledge when you are doubtful about marriage is obligatory or not ? One member Murada has already posted for your perusal a page from Fatwa bank of IslamOnline. On what ground are you not accepting that Fatwa ? For a healthy person marriage is Fardh, as per the Fatwa. If you have persistent doubts, you go to other Mufti to get another Fatwa. When I am sure of the Verses and could easily see Allah’s command and also understood them, and have been practising them with due submission, it is not necessary for me to refer this matter to anywhere, because to me, it is clear, marriage is fardh. I do not have an iota of doubt about it. Your quote : “The meaning u have given for the word "Fankihu" is "so marry" or "then marry". I accept it, may b u r right but even if someone knows a little bit of English he can easily say that these words are not used for Commanding/ordering something.” Unquote Again you are taking the English words, so and then to fit into your agenda. If you do not know the Arabic it is your problem. can you hold Al-Qur’aan responsible for that? Can you expect Allah to come down to your level of understanding. He has given you brain as you mentioned and grasp the message and be an intellect. Who holds you from becoming one like that ? Why is it too hard for you to understand that the commands are in between a group of commands, they fall in between a group of sentences ? I have already mentioned that the Islamic society was in the making, and a host of commands, rules and ethics were set up. During such time these verses were revealed. Regarding your wishes of clear order from Allah, the whole of Al-Qur’aan is clear order from Allah. The use of “Fa” in some places does not nullify any other commands of Allah. If you separate “Fa” from “Fankihu” there remains “Ankihu” – both are orders as you have quoted to pray, and bow down. I hope you have to make a good study of Arabic language, at least to the extent to understand Al-Qur’aan’s arrangement of verses, in a highly philosophical and poetical arrangement. You cannot afford to reject a command if it occurs in between the verses, which is told in the poetical flow of fine Arabic. Your quote : “You have said so many times that one cannot stay bachelor life-long. This is just an assumption from u. I have couple of examples around me where people are staying bachelor without indulging in sexual act. Its just ur frustration which caused u to do such act otherwise Jesus Christ would not have stayed bachelor” Unquote If the people who are staying bachelor, they CANNOT stay long. You contact them again after a few years. By that time they would have already committed sins. Or surely they will lie. It is not necessary for them to make a confession before you. In a friendly manner, sometimes, they will disclose. Try later. Had I frustrated with your talk, I would not have welcomed further discussion from you, clearly saying that in my last write up. Did not you read full ? You or anyone cannot make me frustrated. May be you will go frustrated with your adamant and rejecting attitude. Better you use some other words to describe my persistency. By rejecting Hadeeth of Sahih Bukhari, you have already become a Munkir-e-Hadith, you know ? I was expecting from you the point of Eisa (Alaihissalaam). I have answered this to many Christian Missionaries who argued that since Jesus (peace be upon him) did not marry, the Church fathers also have been practicing Monasticism. Basically your doubts are the ones emanated from a Christian mind, which I have already pointed out to you. Eisa Alaihissalaam was a Prophet of Allah. He was taken up by Allah at the age of 33 years. He was born without the male intervention. Eisa Alaihissalaam did not follow Monasticism, nor he ordered. But he was the Word from Allah, noble, keeping away from sexual relations with women, a Prophet, from among the righteous. Please note that Allah did not use the word “Rahbaniya” (as per 57:27). To describe Eisa Alaihissalaam Allah used the word “hasooran” to describe his status. Hence, your argument taking Jesus (peace be upon him) name is weak. Moreover, when Jesus (peace be upon him) comes to this world for the second time, he will live like a Muslim, will marry, have children and die as a Muslim. In order to convince you, I have to resort to some childish approach, so that you can understand better. But in that simplest efforts also you failed to understand my point. The people who need to have some pretext to escape from responsibilities always try to find a loophole like things and if they find any, their scanty knowledge assumes and convinces them that they are right and also assume that there is no clarity in commands from Allah. That is what you are doing now. The nudist will argue with you saying that that is for ladies to dress, not for me. If you come to wear the cloth then only the measurements become applicable to you. If you choose to remain nude, no law of this world or any Divine Laws will ever change you. You cannot make a Halaa thing Haraam for you. If you are allergic to something you can abstain from eating it. There is no sin. You can remain without eating any meat, if you are allergic to, but making it haraam for you is not correct. If you can use your common sense, you will very well deal with the problem of children as other now dealing with. There are millions, I repeat millions of families here who have their own children as well as children born to another father. Yet they live together. You can solve the quarrel of children as you would solve in between you own children. There is no much common sense needed here. The possible forthcoming quarrel between children is not the criteria to hold you from getting married, once or twice or thrice. That is only your assumption of things, which may happen or may not happen. You may get children or you may not get children. If there would be a quarrel, there would be a solution and peace. Paying dower, or Mahr is not a problem for a believing Muslim. Billions of people are doing it. There is nothing new in this. You can keep your Mahr money to the lowest, mutually agreed with a poorest family. Even beggars get married. They pay Mahr too. They raise their children. They do not run away from their responsibilities. Peace & Childish Smiles Zeenaeem[/quote]
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