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[quote]Dear Atif Regarding the verse 4:25, your quote : “Here ALLAH almighty gave a permission to Muslim men that if they don't have means to marry a believing women then they can marry the slave girls. Now, this is again a privelage or permission given in some special circumstance same as in the verse 4:3. Here if u see ALLAH Almighty says that "This (permission) is for those among you who fear sin; but it is better for you that ye practise self-restraint" Now can you please explain what does it mean ? There are 2 very important points in it : 1. This persmission is only for those who fear sin. 2. It is "BETTER" to avoid, even for those who fear sin. If it is better to avoid marriage even u fear sin ( provided u don't have means ) then how can it be an order to marry just to be safe from sins ?? Unquote Please note that the word “persmission” stated by you above is not there in Arabic Verse of Al-Qur’aan. This word is inserted either by you or by the translator. Here again, we have to see the background of the verse along with its situation of revelation. The background is the formation of Islamic State with all its rules and regulations and moral ethics. The situation is to instill a very good moral - the very foundation of Islam. The followers have to be trained in dealing with women. Marriage was the main motto to done away with the problem of slavery. If you read the verse-4:28 through which Allah says : “Allah wishes to lighten (the burden) for you; and man was created weak (cannot be patient to leave sexual intercourse with woman). Also see 4:26 where Allah says : “Allah wishes to make clear (what is lawful and what is unlawful) to you, and to show you the ways of those before you, and accept your repentance, and Allah is AllKnower, AllWise.” In order to set right the problem of women, slave girls, etc. marriage was prescribed and those who cannot afford to marry free-women were commanded by this order of Allah to marry slave-girls, duly paying their Mahr. (It is a command of Allah). Allah did not say “permission” as you have quoted in para-2 of your quote. Allah did not say to avoid marriage fearing sin. Tafsir Tabari : [b]Marrying a Female Slave, if One Cannot Marry a Free Woman[/b] Allah said, those who do not have the means, (financial capability), wherewith to wed free believing women meaning, free faithful, chaste women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess. Meaning, they are allowed to wed believing slave girls owned by the believers. (and Allah has full knowledge about your faith; you are one from another.) Meaning Allah knows the true reality and secrets of all things, but you people know only the apparent things. Allah then said, [blue][b]“Wed them with the permission of their own folk)[/b][/blue] indicating that the owner is responsible for the slave girl, and consequently, she cannot marry without his permission. The owner is also responsible for his male slave and they cannot wed without his permission. A Hadith states: Any male slave who marries without permission from his master, is a fornicator. When the owner of the female slave is a female, those who are allowed to give away the free woman in marriage, with her permission, become responsible for giving away her female slave in marriage, as well. A Hadith states that the woman does not give away another woman, or herself in marriage, for only the adulteress gives herself away in marriage. And give them their due in a good manner;) meaning, pay them their dowry with a good heart, and do not keep any of it, belittling the matter due to the fact that they are owned slaves. Allah's statement, (they should be chaste) means, they are honorable women who do not commit adultery, and this is why Allah said, (not fornicators) referring to dishonorable women, who do not refrain from illicit sexual relations with those who ask. Ibn `Abbas said that the fornicating women are the whores, who do not object to having relations with whomever seeks it, while, (nor promiscuous - refers to taking boyfriends. Similar was said by Abu Hurayrah, Mujahid, Ash-Sha`bi, Ad-Dahhak, `Ata' Al-Khurasani, Yahya bin Abi Kathir, Muqatil bin Hayyan and As-Suddi. The Slave Girl's Punishment for Adultery is Half that of a Free Unmarried Woman Allah said, (And after they have been taken in wedlock, if they commit Fahishah, their punishment is half of that for free (unmarried women). This is about the slave women who got married, as indicated by the Ayah; (And whoever of you have not the means wherewith to wed free believing women, they may wed believing girls from among those whom your right hands possess,) Therefore, since the honorable Ayah is about believing slave girls, then, And after they have been taken in wedlock - refers to when they (believing slave girls) get married, as Ibn `Abbas and others have said. Allah's statement : Their punishment is half of that for free (unmarried women.) indicates that the type of punishment prescribed here is the one that can be reduced to half, lashes in this case, not stoning to death, and Allah knows best. Allah's statement, (This is for him among you who is afraid of being harmed in his religion or in his body;) indicates that marrying slave girls, providing one satisfies the required conditions, is for those who fear for their chastity and find it hard to be patient and refrain from sex. In this difficult circumstance, one is allowed to marry a slave girl. [blue][b]However, it is better to refrain from marrying slave girls and to observe patience, for otherwise, the offspring will become slaves to the girl's master.[/b][/blue] Allah said : “but it is better for you that you practice self-restraint, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (26). Allah wishes to make clear (what is lawful and what is unlawful) to you, and to show you the ways of those before you, and accept your repentance, and Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise.) (27). Allah wishes to accept your repentance, but those who follow their lusts, wish that you (believers) should deviate tremendously away (from the right path)) (28. Allah wishes to lighten (the burden) for you; and man was created weak. ) Allah explains to the believers what He has allowed and prohibited for them in this and other Surahs, (And to show you the ways of those before you,) meaning their righteous ways and how to adhere to the commandments that He likes and is pleased with. (and accept your repentance) from sin and error, (and Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise.) in His commands, decrees, actions and statements. Allah's statement, (but those who follow their lusts, wish that you (believers) should deviate tremendously away from the right path)) indicates that the followers of Shaytan among the Jews, Christians and the adulterous, wish that you would take the horrendous path of falsehood instead of the truth. (Allah wishes to lighten (the burden) for you'') His legislation, orders, what He prohibits and what He decrees for you. This is why Allah has allowed free men to marry slave girls under certain conditions, as Mujahid and others have stated. (and man was created weak.) and this is why it is suitable in his case that the commands are made easy for him, because of his weakness and feebleness. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Tawus said that, (and man was created weak), "Concerning women''. Waki` said, "Man's mind leaves when women are involved.'' Hence, dear Atifrafi, every Verse is a command of Allah and it is obligatory on us to follow them. Your quote : “It is clearly stated in this Fatwa as well, if u agree on it that marriage is Fardh only if a person is so tormented by sexual desire that he/she fears falling into the sin of fornication. This clearly means that if a person is not tormented by sexual desire to the extent that he fears fornication then its not a Fardh.” Unquote You rightly understood but are trying to take advantage in the same line of your politician who had 9 wives (as you quoted). If a person is not tormented by sexual desire the status of marriage is not changed, but he does not come under the “fardh” category of marriage. The marriage on him still remains fardh BUT he can take time to get married. Your quote : “I am very sorry to say that the Fatwa u have been quoting so many times, u didn't even read that carefully. Please make sure that u have read it completely before quoting.” Unquote You do not have to be sorry for my quoting the Fatwa unread. That Fatwa is meant for you, not for me. Because, I have already obeyed the orders of Allah. I am sure I have read that Fatwa quoted by another poster “Murada”. Peace & Abundant Smiles Zeenaeem[/quote]
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