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[quote][quote]Perhaps you would have asked, why did God let Hitler kill so many people, or let Pharoah feed so many babies to the crocodiles of the Nile. and so on and so forth. [/quote]

Those examples are better understood through the concept of "free will"

[quote]Please see Sister Henna Khan's piece on this.

http://www.studying-islam.org/articletext.aspx?id=933[/quote]

Thank you. I scanned through it and will read carefully.

[quote]My opinion from a different discussion, i.e., on whether this was Divine scourge or not, is as follows:

my opinion is that the scourge of God, comes when 
a) a Prophet is sent
b) people reject the Prophet
c) it is clear beyond doubt that people reject the message blatantly 
d) Recall Abraham's conversation with God on Sodom in the Bible (even if there are 10 good people, he would not destroy Sodom)

The disaster was an outcome of nature. it is a test of patience for some, and a test of humanity for others. [had it been scourge then why is AIDS/famine killing Africans, and why these disasters on Asians, it is as if the North Americans and Europeans are innocent??][/quote]

Does "outcome of nature" make God not responsible of it? He created nature and those earthquake were there on earth maybe even before our coming.

[quote]After all none has the right of Itmam ul Hujjah after the Prophet. And Itmam ul Hujjah replaces divine scourge when the Prophet achieves authority. Also, both divine scourge and the Itmam are exclusive to the Age of the Prophets.[/quote]

Why is it exclusive to the age of prophet? does it mean that itmamul hujjaj is not attainable after the prophet age?

[quote]I agree with Sister Henna Khan's opinion at studying-islam.org in this regard. I also agree with Khawaja, in that the whole Noah, Lot scene (divine scourge)the righteous were saved, and in the Moses/Muhammad (pbuh) case (Itmam ul Hujjah) only the infidels were slayed after the ultimatum.

Edited by: junaidj on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:51 AM[/quote]

One thiing to add. Do you think the test or "reminder of death" for human being is not complete without such earthquake as already people see death closely between relatives or friends etc.

Also when we say that such things like earthquakes, flood and  other "natural" disasterss are necessary for the test of human being, wont that bring the feeling in our hearts that no matter what we do to protect ourselves we will be overcomed anyway.Imagine you are a teacher in a class with you students trying to make them behave and not hurt each other and then comes a thunder taking the life of two students and no matter how hard you try the thunder will come once a week to take the life of two students.will you still try to protect yourselves? will you still care much about getting your students not doing the slight hurt to each other? will you not get the feeling that you are fighting nature? in other words, when the siaster coming from nature becomes as terrible as that coming from people or even greater the idea that evil comes from ourselves might be lost and the bad things people do maybe forgotten while facing the greater challenges coming from nature.

Those just flood of thouths and I know sometimes I repeat myself in a bad way.

Hope it wont bore anyone :)

I will read more about this insh'Allah[/quote]

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