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[quote]>>Some hadith in Sahih Bukhari narrate Hazrat Aisha married the prophet at age 9

9 is a child's age. I refuse to accept such apocryphal Hadith. It goes against all common sense.

>>my point is, the marriage at early age is allowed and there is no condition like you have to be 18 years old,

I think the condition is that of consent. At that age you are not mature enough to make huge decisions.

This is the problem I have with Mullahs, why must everything be reduced to sex. Marriage is not just sex.

>>It seems in the west, they ridicule Muslims for this practice, and yet their own children are indulging in sexual activities

Two wrongs dont make one right. Both are morally reprehensible.

>>When societies try to enforce their own laws and prevent people from getting married, like law of being 18 years old, or christian priests not allowed to marry, then bad things happen - fornication, child molestation, homosexuality, etc.

This analysis is quite simplistic.

Fornication:
In Pakistan the legal age of marriage I suppose is also 18. Even in the West it is 18 but 16 with parental consent (for Canada).

First, look at current Muslim societies, I know many men in their thirties who are chaste. (Oosman, the Luminites from BSc 99, who didn't get married are now nearing their thirties...), and there are many more back home.

Child molestation:
Studies show that mostly the child molester is a close relative, an uncle or someone close, also do not forget the 500 cases of mullahs molesting children in pakistan, the figure was down from 2000 last year or so.

I personally know of two mullah molesting (one a boy and another a girl). one was a renowned scholar on pakistan television, married and with kids.

homosexuality:
this is complex, and open sex behaviour does not encourage or discourage it. Otherwise NWFP wouldnt have gays (if open sex encouraged it) or north america wouldn't have them (if open sex discouraged it). It just is.

I personally know of a 51 year old woman, whose marriage was in doldrums depsite her traditional Bahai faith, she has just realized, when she gave herself some space to think outside the rigorous routine of life, that why she never liked her husband.

>>Islam provides such a beautiful way for preventing these bad things from happening, by providing the umbrella of marriage to allow young people

by getting kids get married and reducing marriage to a sexual affair?

lets do a Kant, will you allow your own  12 boy/girl year old get married with a 20 year old man/woman OR a 16 year old with a 30 year one, should they begin to like each other? It gets quite complex.

see this is where the line of sexual abuse gets blurred. sexual abuse is not that an older person forces himself/herself on a child, that would be rape. in sexual abuse often the child is complicit. his/her body is growing and in such cases, the child occasionally is excited.

Even two 15, 16 year olds getting married to each other, they hardly know anything, the rebellious phase mandated by biology, the teeming hormones which need sometime to settle down, the naive thought process, etc.

In my humble opinion, and this goes back to our many disagreements, where the Shariah is silent, we are bound to use our COMMON SENSE. Our faith is based on reasoning and that is the least we can do to uphold the high values of our faith wherever the Shariah remains silent.

PS: the problem of the west is not in 'not allowing early marriages' but in 'not safeguarding the institution of chastity before marriage'.

Edited by: junaidj on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:30 AM[/quote]

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