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[quote][quote][b][font=Comic Sans MS]no one comments on what i say...oh well i'll talk to myself!!

Wassalam
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Edited by: xxbasxx on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:56 PM[/quote]

I'm sorry for not replying to your promptly, i didn't realize your post was directed at me till i read it just now.

As for your point, I disagree with you here:

"BUT! if they come out of a test thinking: oh God didnt help me, i wont believe in Him, this means that they have failed their test and come out of a bad experience without learning anything."

The only way for you to prove this is to either have gone through it yourself, or know somebody else who has gone through this.  It sounds nice when written, but in reality it doesn't really work that way.

As for my experience with this way of thought, is very positive, and it always brings me closer to God.  It makes me patient because i KNOW it is good for me nomatter how bad it seems.  But the test means that it IS bad, and that i am actually going through harm, which makes me much less optimistic and i am much less patient.

The whole test thing, just doesn't work for me.  Bad things happen to good people and bad people alike, and it is more about chance than it is about God testing you.  I put the "test" along with the metaphorical parts of the Quran, i don't take it literally.  Maybe it works for other people, like yourself, but it doesn't work for me.  And my way of doing things isn't any less hallal than your own, in fact i can argue it is better.

The people who died in the tsunami weren't being tested for anything, and they weren't all bad people.  Between them were good and bad, all killed together because of a natural disaster.  And since God created the universe and is in control of its order and basic natural physics (He could've created it so that it is impossible for tsunamis to hit that area), then this was a good thing, not a bad one.  These people died not because they were bad or because they were being tested, but because this is the best that could have happened.  Maybe if the tsunami had not killed them, then this would have been the first place for Islam to be corrupted, and then it would spread.  True? We don't know.  So our only way to make sense of this is to accept it as being good, not bad, in my opinion.

Most people aren't convinced by the "test" theory you present.  This one makes much more sense to the people who i've talked to, especially the non-Muslims.

Edited by: amrbassiouny on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:28 AM[/quote]

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