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[quote]Quote: The Mathematical Miracle of the Qur’an which you are reffering is not found in Quran, its a man made calculations.Its not part of Quran.There no such thing exist in Quran.You are not standing with yours own saying that we should follow only Quran,very said.
>>> Yes it is found in the Qur'an and disbelievers can't see it.
[74:21]   He looked. 
[74:22]   He frowned and whined. 
[74:23]   Then he turned away arrogantly. 
[74:24]   He said, "This is but clever magic! 
[74:25]   "This is human made." 
[74:26]   I will commit him to retribution. 
[74:27]   What retribution! 
[74:28]   Thorough and comprehensive. 
[74:29]   Obvious to all the people. 
[74:30]   Over it is nineteen. 
[74:31]   We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people. 
Qoute:- I know that,Colombus claim could be verified by visting America at that time and now every knows about Ameraca.But if he was lying, so it make not much diffrence to any one.Quran is for the Hidaya for menkind and according to yours theory(not mine) one should not reffer any thing beside Quran. If you think there is some Mathematical Miracle of the Qur’an, in Quran, so it must proved with Quran only not with the help of man made calculations, you just have to give Sura and verse nos. only from where the man made calculations come in between?.If you can not do that, so please stop balming others for following the Sunnah and hadith.Because you also blieve in the man made stuff to understand the Quran. 
>>> Please see above.

Samsher

Edited by: ibrahim on Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:17 AM[/quote]

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