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[quote]<BR>[b][center]Surah Nisa, Verse 34[/center][/b] <BR>[center][i]Bismillah[/i][/center] [i][center]Quran: 2:231[/center][/i] [blue][i]Either retain them in kindness or release them in kindness. Do not retain them in order to injure (or hurt) them; or to take undue advantage; if any one does that he has wronged his own soul. Do not treat Allah's Signs as a jest, but solemnly rehearse Allah's favours on you, and the fact that He sent down to you the Book and Wisdom, for your instruction. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is well acquainted with all things.[/blue][/i] Assalamualaikum, Br Ibrahim said: [b][i]"I'm afraid, U r NOT right here Bcoz The word “Zarb” means to Beat in Arabic"[/i][/b] I suggest you read the above verse. What does this verse say? What about showing her kindness? How about releasing her rather than give her pain? Who has told you that muslims must remain in an agonising marriage or live with a controlling, abusive spouse? Which wife can feel inclined to her husband after she has been beaten? Once, twice, does it matter? It is still violence and still abuse. Imagine how many times will he beat her throughout her life? For what reasons? Which disagreements? Even the fahisha wife is treated with respect in the Quran (65:1-2) and yet you are saying that ordinary muslimah wives should be beaten as a 'last resort' without evidence from the Quran or the practice of the Prophet. And yet you know full well that the prophet condemned this behaviour and he never beat his wives and we are supposed to follow his example, so why propogate it? If beating was allowed there should be clear verses on this and beating wives violently would have continued in arabia as before. Are we now going back to the period of ignorance and male chauvanism? Someone said: "Because the wives of the prophet created no such situation.." By the same anology then it can equally be said that the Prophet created no such situation by which any of his wives would do something against God's limits. Beating certainly does not solve any marital problems! She can get a divorce straight away by just discussing his bad behaviour with her folk in the next verse (4:35)! No Muslim woman has to remain in any unhappy, abusive or violent marriage! And there are plenty of evidence on this from the Quran and sunnah. When no man is allowed to keep the wife against her will, so how can he be allowed to mistreat her and batter her. There are several different meanings of the word 'daraba' (zarb) and even in the Quran there are many different meanings of this word. Also someone said: "Can we discover new meaning in the words used in the Qur'an?" How can we contradict the above Quran verse (2:231)? Allah says [blue][i]Those who listen to the Word (the Quran) and follow the best meaning in it: those are the ones whom Allah has guided and those are the one's endowed with understanding. [/blue][/i] Quran 39:18 Allah swt asks us to follow the best meaning in the Quran yet, some of you take the worst meaning that's completely out of it's literal context! Also 'Strike' in arabic is not to physically beat! Daraba (zarb) has so many other meanings. So why choose only this verse 4:34 to mean "beat" for daraba and not all the rest? 'Daraba' can also mean to separate and it has many other different meanings. Allah Almighty also used the word "darabtum", which is derived from the word "daraba" in Noble Verse 4:94, which mean to "go abroad" in the sake of Allah Almighty: "O ye who believe! When ye go abroad (darabtum) in the cause of Allah, investigate carefully, And say not to anyone who offers you a salutation: 'Thou art none of a Believer!' Coveting the perishable good Of this life: with Allah Are profits and spoils abundant. Even thus were ye yourselves Before, till Allah conferred On you His favours: therefore Carefully investigate. For Allah is well aware Of all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:94)" So "daraba" here can literally means to "go abroad", or "give" but not in the sense to give something by hand, but rather to give or provide an example or parable and even when it means to 'strike' in the Quran, it is not in the physical sense! In this case then is it right to change the meaning of 'daraba' here and bring out a new meaning of 'beat'? Why not in all the other verses? Here are more examples: Read 'strike' in the arabic literal context! To travel, to get out: 3:156; 4:101; 38:44; 73:20; 2:273 To strike: 2:60,73; 7:160; 8:12; 20:77; 24:31; 26:63; 37:93; 47:4 8:50; 47:27 To set up: 43:58; 57:13 To give (examples): 14:24,45; 16:75,76,112; 18:32,45; 24:35; 30:28,58; 36:78; 39:27,29; 43:17; 59:21; 66:10,11 To take away, to ignore: 43:5 To condemn: 2:61 To seal, to draw over: 18:11 To cover: 24:31 To explain: 13:17 In fact men have abused this verse and changed the meaning to mean only "beat" in relation to women in 4:34 in order to subjugate women. It was never the practice of the Prophet to beat his wives or other women. He never commanded men to beat, tap, humiliate or abuse their wives. In fact he is reported to have clearly said NOT to beat women and we are to follow his example (3:31-32) These hadiths clearly contradict beating: [green][i]"How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then embrace (sleep with) her? [/i][/green] Al-Bukhari, English Translation, vol. 8, Hadith 68, pp. 42-43. Other traditions in Abu Da'ud, Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, Ahmad bin Hanbal and others, to the effect that he forbade the beating of any woman, saying: [green][i]Never beat God's handmaidens"[/i][/green] He also said [i][green]Some (women) visited my family complaining about their husbands beating them). These (husbands) are not the best of you.[/green][/i] Any form of abuse or violence on the wife by the husband for any reason is completely forbidden (See 2:231 & others including Prophet's last sermon). Even during wartime, women & children are not to be harmed! The only reason for which a Muslim woman can be physically punished is through an Islamic court, and only if she is proved a [maroon][i]zani[/i][/maroon] witnessed by four adults(24:2). Otherwise her husband can either keep her, separate or divorce her if she is indecent [maroon][i]fahisha[/i] [/maroon] see (65:1). Or the husband & wife can swear an oath to the Islamic court (24:6). The punishment of the woman is near to impossible because clearly Allah swt prefers it to be this way. If anyone accuses other honourable sisters of 'promoting the circumstances' for women to become [maroon][i]fahisha[/i], [/maroon] promiscuous, adultress or prostitutes, then the punishment is, as the in verse 24:4. There is no where in the Quran where the word [maroon][i]daraba[/i][/maroon] means physically to 'beat'. [maroon][i]Daraba[/i] [/maroon] in [maroon][i]idribhunna[/i] [/maroon] can mean anything from separation & eviction (surah Talaq) or providing an example to the [maroon][i]nashazi[/i][/maroon] (4:34), unchaste or [maroon][i]fahisha [/i][/maroon] wife (see prophet's last sermon). Daraba can also mean the husband mingling with her and having relations! The obedience of [maroon][i]salahat qanatat[/i] [/maroon] (4:34), pious devotion of wives is to Allah swt, in safeguarding her privacy (or chastity). And husbands are [maroon][i]qawwamum-fadhl[/i] [/maroon] over them i.e take every care of their wives concerns. In summary, there is the following hadith from the Prophet on the rights of a wife. A person asked the Messenger of Allah, “What right does the wife of one among us have over him?” His answer was: [i]It is that you shall give her food, [b]you shall not slap her[/b] on the face, nor revile her, nor leave her alone except within the house[/i] (Ahmad, Abu Da’ud, Ibn Majah). This implies [i][blue]provision[/blue], [red]residence[/red], [green]respect[/green] and [purple]security[/purple].[/i] It doesn't mean that men can slap their wife around everywhere else on their body, as they feel like it or when they aren't 'feeling in control' of the situation! Allah swt has never revealed any verse in which a husband can be violent in any sense towards his wife. Also this would be in clear opposition and contradiction to verse 2:231 and others in the Quran 2:229, 30:21, 65:1-2. Allah swt never commanded men to beat their women. On the contarary, Allah swt says those men who abuse and harm, hurt or injure their wives, such men have [b]wronged their souls[/b]. "When ye divorce women, and they fulfil the term of their ('Iddat), either take them back on equitable terms or set them free on equitable terms; but [b]do not[/b] take them back to injure them, (or) to take undue advantage; if any one does that [b]he has wronged his own soul[/b]. Do not treat Allah's Signs as a jest, but solemnly rehearse Allah's favours on you, and the fact that He sent down to you the Book and Wisdom, for your instruction. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is well acquainted with all things. (2:231) The Quran is clear on this issue. Wife 'beating' or any form of violence or abuse is not permitted in Islam. [i][blue]Men are the appointed supporters of women, because God has given them more overall capacity than them and because they spend their resources (to maintain the family), therefore, the righteous women are obedient (to God) and during the absence (of their husband) they safeguard private matters as God would safeguard them. As for those women whom you are experiencing a fear of disloyalty from, you shall first advice them persuasively, then (if they continue) you may leave them alone in their bed, then (if they continuue despite your earnest conciliation) you may depart (idhribhunna). If they reform then don't transgress against them. God is Most High, Supreme. [/blue] (4:34). [/i] I hope this is clear. I won't be back, because I am busy and I have other commitments. I pray Allah guides you all. Wasalam, Thameena ________________________________________ See also articles: [url="http://www.crescentlife.com/thisthat/feminist%20muslims/beating_women_yuksel.htm"]Beating Women Or Beating Around the Bush, Or...[/url] [url="http://www.penkatali.org/wife.html"]Wife-Beating is Not Allowed in Islam[/url] [url="http://www.countercurrents.org/engineer-140104.htm"]Islam & Sexual Equality[/url] <BR><BR>[/quote]
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