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[quote]Salam,

QUOTE: - If the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had been saying for the 23 years that he was delivering the Qur’an, which is the word of God then why we should not believe in the PROPHET’S words, otherwise we indirectly label the Prophet (peace be upon him) as a liar (Naooz be Allah). Isn’t it?

My Response:- This is not the answer of my Question. We muslim believe that Qur’an is the word of God but we cannot say as we believe on Qur’an so it is the absolute/scientific proof that Qur’an is the word of God.

2ndly, Prophet Muhammad also says in the Qur’an the followings;

[3:81]   GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. AFTERWARDS, A MESSENGER WILL COME TO CONFIRM ALL EXISTING SCRIPTURES.  You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

[33:7]   Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.

Then brother why do you not believe on the above sayings of Prophet Muhammad???

Quote:- Now I have a Question. Did any prophet ever tell a lie even a single time or had been doing so repeatedly for several consecutive years?

My Response:- Above.

MY QUOTE: - Also if you do not believe on Mathematical Miracle of the Qur’an, then could you please explain me what is the scientific/uncontested proof, at present, FOR THE WHOLE QUR’AN that it is the word of God?

Your answer:- Qura’n is a mixture of different aspects of our life. The scientific experts of every aspect can give the answer properly. Perhaps you know that the Quranic statements said 1426 years ago are being proved scientifically today even by the non muslims.

My Response: Qur’an contains many scientific information but that does not mean that all the verses are contained with scientific information(according to modern science), for example A.L.M. [2:1]. How can it be proved by any scientist that it is a word of God. What is the meaning of this? But Code-19 of the Qur’an proved this.

Your Quote:- If you believe in the Mathematical Miracle of the Qur’an, do the EXPERTS of Mathematics support the miracle and if they do please show the evidence with complete bibliography?

My Response:- Not every believer may be as brave as the two magicians who declared their support of Moses despite Pharaoh's threat. Hiding one's belief to protect one's life is justified by God. However, Richard Voss, one of the few Western mathematicians who studied the numerical structure of the Quran, is more positive than negative... Please go to the following links and read; http://19.org/index.php?id=26,57,0,0,1,0 , http://19.org/index.php?id=26,60,0,0,1,0 ,
http://19.org/index.php?id=26,61,0,0,1,0 …………..

Peace
Samsher[/quote]

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