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[quote]Salam,
 
Quote:- If someone says 2+2 = 5, it should be a new thing or a “Miracle of Mathematics” for those who do not know to count even upto 5 but they claim to do upto 100 or above. Isn’t it?

Response:- No brother at first you made a mistake because of  your wishful thinking. It should be ‘if someone proves…, not says’. There is huge difference between the meaning of the words ‘says’ & ‘proves’. You even don’t know the difference between these two simple English words  yet you are going to disprove the ‘Mathematical Miracle of the Qur’an’!!! Do you remember once upon a time I told you or someone like you that “ YOU EVEN DON’T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A TWO WHEELER YET YOU ARE GOING TO  DRIVE A LUXURY BUSS”!!!

This was the right analysis for you type of people. Now come to the point. Do you not read the following verses of the Qur’an?

[74:31]   We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and WE ASSIGNED THEIR NUMBER (19) (1) TO DISTURB THE DISBELIEVERS, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) TO EXPOSE THOSE WHO HARBOR DOUBT IN THEIR HEARTS, AND THE DISBELIEVERS; THEY WILL SAY, "WHAT DID GOD MEAN BY THIS ALLEGORY?" GOD THUS SENDS ASTRAY WHOMEVER HE WILLS, AND GUIDES WHOMEVER HE WILLS. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.

[74:32 -37]   Absolutely, (I swear) by the moon.  And the night as it passes.  And the morning as it shines. THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT MIRACLES.  A warning to the human race. For those among you who wish to advance, or regress.

You disturbed by the number 19( THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT MIRACLES), because according to the above verses you are DISBELIEVER( I don’t say but the verses above).

QUOTE: - I will do tell you but please ANSWER MY QUESTION FIRST (if you are not UNANSWERABLE), which you have copied the same.

My Response:- This is not the right approach brother to defend your illogical idea. If you asked for any or some proof of anything regarding any subject from any one, then you should also keep ready to answer the similar question if raise by the opponent side, there should be no rule for who asked first and who asked second. But the trickster always try to invent this rule.

Whatever may be, I have already given my reply to you in this regard. If you don’t like to accept them, you have the right to reject them.

Quote:- not only Mr. Richard Voss but all the statements of even Newton, Archimedes, Einstein and all the others are USELESS if they do not FULFILL THE CRITERIA. You can ask any concerned person.

Response:- Then what should be the CRITERION? What is your CRITERION brother regarding ISLAM? Is it that what Mr Bukhary, Mr. Muslim…………or Newton, Archimedes, Einstein & Richard Voss said?

My Criterion is Only Qur’an, and Qur’an says that ‘This is (number19) one of the great miracles’. But as your criterion is conjecture, ie. Hadith, sunnah(falsely attributed to Muhammad), so you always make doubt about this miracle and you people always try to say that this is ‘R.K. made……..” (74:24-25).

Secondly, I told again & again that I am not here to prove R.K.’s messengership. I strictly believe that Qur’an is the ONLY RELIGIOUS SOURCE OF ISLAM, no hadith, no suhhan (falsely attributed on Muhammad), no twatur….etc. Qur’an should  only be the CRITERION for us and to prove this I am here. If any think otherwise , then he may think. This is his right.

[10:108]   Proclaim: "O people, the truth has come to you herein from your Lord. Whoever is guided is guided for his own good. And whoever goes astray, goes astray to his own detriment. I am not a guardian over you."

[18:56]   We only send the messengers as simply deliverers of good news, as well as warners. THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE ARGUE WITH FALSEHOOD TO DEFEAT THE TRUTH, AND THEY TAKE MY PROOFS AND WARNINGS IN VAIN.

[18:57]   WHO ARE MORE EVIL THAN THOSE WHO ARE REMINDED OF THEIR LORD'S PROOFS, THEN DISREGARD THEM, WITHOUT REALIZING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Consequently, we place shields on their hearts to prevent them from understanding it (the Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what you do to guide them, they can never ever be guided.

Peace
Samsher.

Edited by: ibrahim on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:02 AM[/quote]

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