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[quote]Dear Usmani,

Salam,

I red your post very carefully. You referred many verses from the Qur’an, but it did not appear from even a single verse, which you referred that Muslim should follow prophet hadith besides Quran as their religious source. Rather Quran says very clearly that  we should not follow ANYTHING as our religious source besides Quran;

006:114 Khan	[Say (O Muhammad SAW)] "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you THE BOOK (THE QUR'AN), EXPLAINED IN DETAIL." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt.
006:114 Maulana	Shall I then seek a judge other than Allah, when He it is WHO HAS SENT DOWN TO YOU THE BOOK FULLY EXPLAINED. And those whom We have given the Book know that it is revealed by thy Lord with truth, so be not thou of the disputers.
006:114 Pickthal	Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is WHO HATH REVEALED UNTO YOU (THIS) SCRIPTURE, FULLY EXPLAINED? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers

Almighty Allah further explains:

"And We have revealed the Book to you which has the clear explanation of everything <wa nazzalna_ 'alaikal kita_ba tibya_nal likulli shai'iw>, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit." (16:89)

“And certainly We have brought them a Book, which We have detailed with knowledge <faSSalnaahu Ala Ilmin>, a guidance and mercy for a people who believe” (7:52)

“A Book of which the verses are distinctly detailed <fuSSilat ayaatahu>, an Arabic Qur’an for people who know” (41:3)

“Indeed We have made the verses detailed for a people who take reminder <qad faSSalnaa-l-’aayyaati li-qawmin yadhakkaruuna>” (6:126)

2ND POINT:- Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was not the teacher of Quran and also he did not explain IT by outside source. Almighty Allah is the teacher & HE explained of the Quran. Prophet(pbuh) taught the quran to his people what he learnt from Almighty God. That means Almighty Allah taught and explained the Quran to him and he taught and explained the same to his people. It was not that he taught and explained the quran to his people by his another personal sayings called hadith! Nowhere in the quran says so. He explained the verses of Quran with the verses of Quran not anything else. Quran itself is FULLY DETAILED AND EXPLAINED. We do not require any outside source for detailing a BOOK which has already been detailed by Almighty Allah!!

THE MESSENGER DELIVERED THE MESSAGE OF GOD(THE QURAN) AND BEFORE HE CAME THE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THE SCRIPTURE, SO IN THAT RESPECT HE HAS BROUGHT TO THEM THE WORD OF GOD AND TAUGHT THEM WHAT THEY DID NOT KNOW. So in this way he was a teacher. But no verse of the quran means that the messenger set up his own teachings or interpretations in an independent reference to exists besides quran.

To get the complete/real picture we must read ALL THE RELEVANT VERSES and not just one or two. Thus we must also read 55:1-2, 75:19 & 5:92

The verses 55:1-2 says;

Sarwar	The Beneficent (God) has taught the Quran to (Muhammad).
Shakir		The Beneficent Allah, Taught the Quran.
Sherali	The Gracious God. HE taught the Qur'an.
Yusufali	(Allah) Most Gracious! It is He Who has taught the Qur'an.
Rashad	The Most Gracious. Teacher of the Quran.
 
 Verse 75:19 says;

Rashad	Then it is we who will explain it.
Sarwar	We shall be responsible for its explanation.
Shakir		Again on Us (devolves) the explaining of it.
Sherali	Then upon US rests the expounding thereof.
Yusufali	Nay more, it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear):

Verse 5:92 says;

Rashad	You shall obey GOD, and you shall obey the messenger, and 
		beware. If you turn away, then know that the SOLE DUTY OF 
		OUR MESSENGER IS TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE EFFICIENTLY.
Sarwar	Obey God and the Messenger and be cautious (of the harmful 
		things). If you turn away (from Our laws), know that the duty of 
		the Messenger is only to preach in clear words.
Shakir		And obey Allah and obey the messenger and be cautious; but if 
		you turn back, THEN KNOW THAT ONLY A CLEAR DELIVERANCE 
		OF THE MESSAGE IS (INCUMBENT) ON OUR MESSENGER.
Sherali	And obey ALLAH and obey the Messenger, and be on your 
		guard. but if you turn away, THEN KNOW THAT ON OUR 
		MESSENGER LIES ONLY THE CLEAR CONVEYANCE OF THE 
		MESSAGE.
Yusufali	Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and beware (of evil): if ye 
		do turn back, KNOW YE THAT IT IS OUR MESSENGER'S DUTY 
		TO PROCLAIM (THE MESSAGE) IN THE CLEAREST MANNER.

3RD POINT:- Wisdom is not additional to the Book(Quran). Please read;

"Remember God’s blessings upon you, and what He sent down to you of the ‘Al-Ketab’ and ‘Al-Hekmah’ to enlighten you with it."  2:231

Literally speaking, the meaning of ‘Al-Ketab’ is the book (the Quran), and ‘Al-Hekmah’ is wisdom.

Now let us see whether ‘Al-Ketab and Al-Hekmah’ are two different things or not.

The word ‘bihee’ (with it) that appear at the end of the verse, is in the singular mode, in other words it describes one thing and not two. For that reason the words ‘Al-Hekmah’ and ‘Al-Ketab’ must denote one thing and not two.

If the words ‘‘Al-Hekmah’and ‘Al-Ketab’ really referred to the Quran and the other source, then the verse should grammatically end with the word ‘bihima’ (with them), which is the plural mode of ‘bihee’.

Throughout the Quran we are told that the only revelation sent down to Muhammad was the Quran. Consequently, the words "what He sent down to you of the ‘Al-Ketab’ and ‘Al-Hekmah’ in 2:31 cannot denote the Quran and the other books, this is because the hadith etc. are NOT the revelation. The words "He sent down to you" make it clear that the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ cannot be speaking about the hadith of Muhammad.

The word ‘Al-Hekmah’ is used throughout the Quran as an adjective of the ‘Al-Kitab’ (the Quran). This is made evident in the following verses :

"Y.S., and the Quran Al-Hakim" 36:1-2

"This is what We recite to you of the ‘Ayat’ and the ‘Zekr Al-Hakim" 3:58

"A.L.R., these are the signs of the ‘Ketab Al-Hakim" 10:1 also 31:2

The same word ‘Al-Hekmah’ is used in the Quran in connection with prophets and messengers who lived before the time of Muhammad (P.B.U.H.). Obviously before Muhammad lived his hadith did not exist. Thus to say that ‘Al-Hekmah’ means hadith of Muhammad is incorrect. Consider the following verses:

"And I taught you the ‘Ketab’ (Scripture) and ‘Al-Hekmah’(wisdom)." 5:110

Clearly the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ here does not mean the hadith of Muhammad.

"Our Lord, and send for them a messenger from among them to recite to them your ‘Ayat’ and teach them the ‘Ketab’ (Scripture) and ‘Al-Hekmah’ (wisdom)." 2:129

Again the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ here could not mean anything but wisdom. Abraham had no knowledge of the hadith of Muhammad.

A further evidence that the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ as used in the Quran means wisdom and not hadith is found in the following verse:

"He bestows ‘Al-Hekmah’ upon whoever He pleases, and whoever attains ‘Al-Hekmah’ has indeed attained a great blessing." 2:269

The words "whoever He pleases" in this verse indicate that God bestows ‘Al-Hekmah’ upon any of the believers and not just His messengers. If we assume that ‘Al-Hekmah’ means the hadith or any other thing we would have to believe that any ordinary believer may also have his own personal hadith…. that has to be followed by other believers! This of course is not the case. The verse would instead make full sense if we think of ‘Al-Hekmah’ in its proper meaning as wisdom.

Finally, the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ in any Arabic dictionary means WISDOM. To leave the literal and direct meaning and accept a manipulated meaning is to reject the truth of the Quran.

4TH POINT:- Obey messenger does not mean obey his(pbuh) personal sayings. Obey messenger means obey the MESSAGE which he brought to this world i.e. Quran and nothing else.

2ndly, there is no absolute proof that the prophetic hadith, which exist today, are originally told by prophet(pbuh). For example Bukhari hadith were collected more than 200 years after the death of prophet(pbuh). Whatever may be, the main point or the most important matter here is that Almighty God says that quran is fully detailed and explained by HIM & we should not take any other source as source of religious law besides quran,

We always hear, "Obey God and obey the messenger..." but never "Obey God and 
Obey Muhammed ." What is the difference , if any.?

Let us find out first if God mentioned Muhammed by name in the Quran. We know, He did, actually four times. In 3:144, 33:40, 47:2 and 48:29. How many times did God tell us to "Obey the messenger" ? There are more

than 25 times in the Quran, where God ordered us to obey the messenger. Not a 
single time did God say "Obey Muhammed"

Is this a co-incidnce or a deliberate order?

Only true believers know that everything in God's world is deliberate, nothing is a co-incidence. Let us find out what God is teaching us about Muhammed.

"Say, (O Muhammed) "I am no more than a human being like you...." 18:110

God Almighty knowing that the Prophet Muhammed is a human being like 
us, will live his life and run his business like any human being would. He would make 
mistakes, get angry, have fears, ...etc. Muhammed the human being was the 
messenger only because of the message given to him, the QURAN.

Muhammed without the Quran is just another human being like us. God wants it to be very clear to obey the person that has the message, the Quran, for what he has not 
for who he is.

Obey the messenger is conditional on having the message, the Quran. 
Obey the messenger because of the message he has, the QURAN. 
Obey the messenger means to follow his message that is given to him, the QURAN.

Muhammed without the message is just a regular human being, he frowned 
and turned away when the blind poor man came to him, (See 80:1-11), he feared the 
people when he was supposed to fear only God, (See 33:37), and he prohibited what he 
should not prohibit, (See 66:1)

That is why there has never been a single order in the Quran from God,the Most 
Cognizant to "Obey Muhammed." If we were to obey Muhammed the human 
being,(not the messenger), we were to frown at the poor, fear the people instead 
of God and prohibit what God did not. We are required to obey the messenger, 
because it is the message (QURAN) that made the obedience a requirement, not the 
person, Muhammed, that made it a requirement.

One great example of the distinction between obeying the messenger (For what he has) 
(the Quran) and obeying the human being, is what God told Muhammed's wives; in Sura 33,

"O wives of the prophet, if any of you commits gross sin, the
retribution will be doubled for her. This is easy for God to do.
Any one of you who obeys GOD and His MESSENGER, and
leads a righteous life, we will grant her double the recompense,
and we have prepared for her a generous provision." 33:30-31

Notice the order here for the prophet's wives to obey the Messenger, not their husband 
or Muhammed. If God would have said to them to obey their husband, the unconditional obedience of the wife to her husband would have been decreed.

If God would have said, obey Muhammed, it would have made the unconditional 
obedience of Muhammed a decree. God wants them and wants us to obey the messenger (for the message he has, the QURAN).

Muhammed the human being was given the great honor of being chosen the final prophet of God to deliver the final message, the QURAN, and was described as "blessed with a great moral character" in 68:4.

We, however have to remember not to make any distinction between him and the rest of 
God's messengers, See 2:285. We are to make the distinction between obeying him by 
following his message and obeying him by following allegation of what he did as a human being in his own personal life.

YES, we should obey the messenger. Those who accept the Quran accept the order from
God to "obey the messenger" by following his message, the Quran ALONE. When the prophet Muhammed died, he left for us ONLY one book, the Quran.

When God told Muhammed in the Quran, "Today I completed your religion for you", 
Muhammed had only one book at that time, the Quran. Muhammed gave us one kind of 
Islam, that we can find in the book of God, the Quran. He did not leave for us the other 
sects of Sunni, Shiite, Ahmaddya, Ismailis…etc. These sects were created when the Muslims 
looked for the books of hadiths  to supplement the book of God. In doing so, they willingly or unwillingly declared that they do not trust God in His 
own book. The book that God described as complete, perfect, fully detailed and having 
details of everything. See 12:111By doing so, all these sects left God’s kingdom and joined the same groups who previously corrupted the other religions of God, Judaism and Christianity.

It is very interesting to know that God gave us this prophecy in the Quran and told us the messenger will complain to Him on the Last Day that "My people have deserted this Quran." 25:30

"...this is not a fabricated Hadith, this (QURAN) confirms all previous scriptures, 
provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those 
who believe." 12:111

Minara.[/quote]

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