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[quote]QUOTE of “oosman”: - In the west sadomasochism is not looked upon as a mental disease; I have never heard or read in any paper that is a disease. I never also called it a disease but “either called an abnormal sexual behaviour (NOT a normal sexual behaviour) or one of the presentations of the underlying PSYCHIATRIC DISORDERS”. You must know that such abnormal behaviours or the psychiatric disorders are NOT the diseases. It must be known that the meaning of the diseses is different for a layman and the technical man. Now find please yourself the “Difference between a disease, functional disorder and a psychiatric disorder” Psychiatric disorders are of two types; Neurotic disorders (e.g. anxiety, depression, phobias, Obsessive compulsive disorders and sexual deviations etc) and Psychotic disorders (e.g. manic depressive psychosis and Schizophrenia etc). Remember, all theses disorders are not called diseases and why they not called diseases, open the books and find yourself. This is basic thing. That’s why I suggested to fulfil the requirement first then try to know the special things. QUOTE of “oosman”: - Perhaps in asian cultures they thing it is deviant behavior. It must be noted that the medical knowledge is same weather it is West or East. In East people read the same Western books and the research papers. Do you know that the people of East also go to the West for the Exams purposes and appear before the Western examiners? QUOTE of “oosman”: - I could probably spend a couple of hours trying to find research papers and dig out what they say about sadomasochism. Please name the research papers and books, which you have seen? Note that every research paper and book present in the Western libraries are also present in the Eastern Libraries. QUOTE of “oosman”: …………… if you can find any research paper saying it is deviant, then I would be most interested in learning more. Can you provide any references? As mentioned above, it is not called a disease but the “Sexual deviations” or the abnormal Sexual Behaviours. Regarding the reference please tell me as above, “which research papers and books have you seen?” otherwise any text book of Medical Jurisprudence or Psychiatry will give you the answer that “Sadism, Masochism are NOT the normal sexual behaviours” Open the book, see the chapter of “Sexual Offences” the under the heading of “Sexual deviations”. QUOTE of “oosman”: - If you can find out in our religion anything against it…………… then I would be most interested in learning more? Regarding the religion I have already said in one of my postings, “I don’t know about any punishment, of these people, set by our religion and the Law” BUT if you really want to know the reaction of the religion, ask yourself as the below. [Note that we are ruling out the sexual behaviour (whether the sexual aggression of any type is normal or abnormal?) regardless of the mode of sex (lawful or unlawful) in the light of the religion, as you required. In the light of religion if such sex with wife is not considered as normal or lawful why not in the form of Zina etc] Recently I created a Forum, “Sexual Behaviour” in the Discussion forum at the following link: http://www.studying-islam.org/forum/topic.aspx?topicid=1938&lang=&forumid=1 where you proposed “Divorce”, which is a very strict decision, due to such a sexual behaviour of the husbands. Why don’t you solace and satisfy that woman by saying that such a aggressive sexual behaviour of her husband is normal not abnormal or deviant. If this awkward behaviour is normal then “Why Divorce”. Why is so much contradiction between the statements of yours, not because you know that no body is looking at any other aspect of your statements? NOTE: How can I make understand a person who does not know even the basic things e.g. the difference between a disease, a functional disorder and a psychiatric disorder? That’s why I suggested to fulfil the requirement first then try to know the special things.[/quote]
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