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[quote]Salam Alekum Prev1 and all, 
Dear Friend, "Daraba" has many shades. You already have explored a few in Quran, let me add a few more.

I live in Arab for over a decade and work in an environment that is 99% surrounded by Arabs. And by that, Arabs also use Darab/Idrab while they suggest somebody to swap his ID card on Attendance-machine, press a button, Knock on the Door and a few more instances. You have already seen in Quran few shades like saying a proverb (Zarb-al-Misl in urdu), Foot-thumping on the land (or simply walking) and last but most important the "Beating".

The word "Darab" is famous in Arab for its basic meaning of "Beating". Please notice that all above-mentioned shades do carry a relationship with the basic meaning of beating. Whether it is Beating on land (walking), Beating the ID Card (Swapping), Beating a Door (Knocking), Beating a Proverb (Telling) and others. This is what Arabic is All-about. A particular Word changes its shades thereby remaining very much connected to the basic meaning.

Example: Ilm (basic Arabic word for "Knowledge") then Shades: Mo'allim (One who disperse Knowledge), Aalim (One who owns the knowledge), Allama (One who masters the knowledge), Aleem (One who has the knowledge) and so on.

You forgot to mention that In Quran (2:60) Allah (s.w.t.) asked Moses (a.s.) to “Beat” his baton against the rock (Idrab bi A'suaak…), again in Quran (38:44) Allah (s.w.t.) asked Ayub (a.s.) to “Beat” his Wife (fadrib bihi….). So for the sake of first reference that you have posted in your message from Quran (39:18), I request you to realize that the basic word Darab means “Beating” and has many other shades. Now, question can be that whether “Darab” in 4:34 is used in any of its shade or in its basic meaning?

So to answer this, please notice the Reason-of-revelation (Shaan-e-nuzul) of this verse in Ibn-e-Kathir or any other authentic book (pls. refer to my first message you’ll find it, perhaps Page 4 of the discussion).

Further, I believe we (including the ulemas that Waseem mentioned about) have a general consensus that Idrab in 4:34 means Gentle-beating. What we contend here is its application in 21st century.

Raushan your quoted, "will you plz specify some of those conditions when beating is ok". I answer, pls. read any book of Tafseer (interpretation) on 4:34 and you'll find the answer.

Slavery and Polygamy, I spare due to lack of knowledge.

I apologise for my apparently offensive wayward Concentrations in earlier messages and renew my pledge to respect those whom I find in contention.

Ma’salam

Kashan Iqbal
Dubai, UAE[/quote]

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