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[quote]>>Quran gives clear cut laws about inheritance, bearing testimony, fornication, adultery, slander, theft. ...Please retract your statement.

I stand corrected. Thank you. I will qualify my statement to 'the Koran allows for the scope of other laws.' i.e. as in the case of ribba and the political system.

>>Well, she is free to seek khula and divorce, be free and live happy without him.

You do know that the law 'permission of the first wife' would be there to discourage a man from hankying pankying elsehwere. However, despite the code of conduct provided by the Shariah (as you are aware of it quite well), and despite adding this additional law  of permission(as in Pakistan), has not stopped men from their transgressions.

And if we do not have the permission clause, they are in a potential state to abuse their rights blatantly. I don't have to tell you more on this.

and without this law, hankying pankying outside marriage becomes legalized. Do you not see the gross injustice in this?

My issue is why spoil one home for another? Divorce in this case sounds much better, than to live with a heedless man , according to your own words:

>>If he cannot be loyal to her alone, then she does not deserve him anyway.

Permission, perhaps might facilitate that divorce, instead of having the woman live in constant threat of her husband. This law is merely to empower women on an equal basis.

After all should not the important decisions of a household  be taken jointly?

>>By requiring her permission, which she will in most cases not grant

I think you had mentioned of Arab women encouraging second marriages to share the burden of the household.

>>Meanwhile the first wife is still not granting him divorce because she hasn't received her greencard.

But can he not divorce her?

>> This is a gross injustice to men whose first marriage has no meaning for them and they are unable to get a divorce.

this is a separate issue, in my opinion, one related to the divorce laws.

>>Would you rather have a man married to one woman whom he is not happy with and cannot leave, and keeping a mistress on the side, or would you rather have him married to both

Neither. Either with the former or the latter (divorcing the former). Or, both if the former grants permission.

>>In case of a mistress, he can refuse her rights and disown her (e.g. if she gets pregnant).

The laws of adultery should deal with this. This reeks of legalizing and even encouraging extra-marital affairs?

PS: I am willing to concede that this law might be ineffective and hence may not be imposed, but not on the basis of the Shariah forbidding it (for it is silent), but simply on the basis of its ineffectiveness as in Pakistan. Then we'll have to come up with other laws like those of higher taxes on such homes, or clear justification by man in the court (but this might not be cost effective).

However, if it proves effective, then by all means I will support it.

Edited by: junaidj on Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:21 PM[/quote]

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