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[quote]Asa wb

Sorry I didn’t mean that there will be no intimate relationships in paradise at all.  Intimate relationships are natural, I wasn't against that.  I have seen nothing in the shariah that goes against it, so I see no problems in that.  It's perfectly natural to have that as part of your relationship with your partner if that is what you desire, it is something that I would see as a result of the love you have for your partner.  So if Allah Swt will allow that in paradise, well that’s up to Him Swt, however He has planned it.

But I have to disagree that hoors are made just for the purpose of having intimate relationships with and that this is all men should focus on.  Allah Swt says the hoors will be the believer’s companions/spouses of modesty and holiness.  So I see the hoors more than intimate partners.  I see them as companions of incredible beauty inside and out, who are especially for you, who are your friends, your soul mates and no one else’s.  As a result of their companionship with you it is perfectly natural to also want an intimate relationship with them if you desire it.  I assume their relationship with you would be similar to the relationship one has with their partner on this earth.  This could be why the believers will [b]marry[/b] them, since from the interpretations I have read Allah Swt says the believers will be [b]wedded[/b] to the hoors.

Regarding other comments you made; I want to say that intimacy has become a focal part of the whole world.  It is now viewed in the most perverted ways.  Are you trying to tell me that you believe that Allah Swt will grant men dirty desires, desires which have gone beyond the boundaries of decency and modesty?  Desires, which are regarded as filthy, like the filth they have in music videos for example?  Do you believe Allah Swt will grant them that? (if you didn’t mean that, then sorry I must have misunderstood what you meant).  Do you believe this is what the hoors are for, and that is it, just to have intimate relationships with them or do you agree with what I said above?

If you don't (plz do not take this the wrong way), then where do you get your ideas? Where did you get harems from?  It is not in the Holy Qur'an.  All Allah Swt has mentioned is hoors, we cannot go beyond that, so plz inform me.

Lastly I would like to say that in the end who knows what paradise is like?  All I know is that it will be incredible.  Whatever Allah Swt has planned for the believers there, it will be the best.  [blue]It was never my concern what paradise itself will be like[/blue], all that concerned me was what we are being taught to believe in this world regarding men, women, their modesty and dignity and what is right and what is wrong.

I know, because being a female the concept of hoors by some scholars really did make me alienated towards Islam (May Allah Swt have mercy on me) because I never would have expected to find something in Islam that made no sense, didn't show justice, and went into areas where no modesty or dignity were shown.

It's not right at all if generations of women as well as men are made to believe that men will get hoors and intimate relationships while women’s minds will be erased and will become the head of the hoors.  To think if this is wrong, how many of us will be misguided and view Islam the wrong way, thinking this is how Allah Swt wants it while all along He didn't.  To think how many men will wrongly view women and see them as just objects of desires, while the poor women have just got to accept their fate.  What about non-Muslims who use this hoor issue to attack Islam, but if the hoor issue is percieved wrongly then these non Muslims are making good points against it?

Do you see how important it is for such an error to be corrected?  To teach men, that women are more then objects of desire, women are human beings too who are their companions, that Allah Swt will also take women’s desires into account and give them hoors because He is the Lord of justice.

I just pray that all Muslims will inshallah view Islam from its laws, morals and values to rewards in the way Allah Swt intended, so if I am wrong or anyone else may Allah Swt guide us.