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[quote]Bismillaah was Salaamu alaykum I apologize as I did not realize how many pages I was behind on the posts. Nonetheless my post hopefully was not actually redundant to the letter. But I was hoping I could contribute now concerning this point. "Actual point here is that the Quran is mainly referring to the upbringing of orphans and not multiple marriages and It only says that for the upbringing of orphans you "can" marry more than once... So, main objective is upbringing of orphans..." That is not accurate. The truth is that men (most men in the world, not just Arabs) were marrying many, many women. And Allaah did not bring the verse to make it permissible under the condition listed above, but to actually limit the number to four. He was decreasing the number. Allaah says (interpretation): "And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (the captives and the slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice." ( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #3) And about this: "[red]"But again COMMON SENSE tells us that one should always ask permission from his first wife as did Hazrat Ali"[/red]. This wanting to run rampant with our so-called common sense. So what is common sense and what standard is used. Is it from thinking Islaamically or from the days of Jahiliyah. The kufar would claim to have "common sense". So I ask, what is the standard procedure for coming to such a serious conclusion in this deen by socalled common sense? Tell me the formula? This = that so it only follows that WHAT should be the end conclusion. Walk me through the thinking process? Tell me how we did so much research and feel so certain the Qur'aan and Hadith do not address this matter? Again, maybe it is the word permission. No one needs the permission as a rule when Allaah has given permission unless you are under the rule of a State that oppresses you into not doing what Allaahu ta'alaa says you can do. That is the 'asl (principle). And As for 'Ali radi Allaahu 'anhu, we must remember that the establishment of the deen was so much still in the works so he mentioned his thoughts of marrying someone else and the issue was not a matter of his merely taking on a [red]"second"[/red] wife, but it was what Allaah's Messenger said in response that clears that up. He said: "Never shall the daughter of the Messenger of Allaah and the daughter of the enemy of Allaah be married to the same man." It was not the issue of a second wife. It was the issue of whom he wanted to marry. And Allaah knows best. My du'aa is that Allaah's blessings be upon His Messenger, his family and companions and all who follow them in righteousness up til the day of Judgement AMEEN Was Salaamu Alaykum Abu Jamiylah[/quote]
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