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[quote][quote][size=2]w salaam Br. Abdullah well answer of ur 1st q is that ALM & all other "HuRuF e MuQaTTa'aaT" r the Names of those Surahs in which they have Come. They r NOT UNKNOWN. I'm Sorry Icudn't Understood ur 2nd Q. plz Explain it again & Give Ref of the Aayah plz. jazak a Allah Well plz Note that Hadith is NOT sunnah. Sunnah is the Practicle part of Islam that we've received from the Prophet By the "Ijmaa' & Tawatur" of the Muslim Ummah The SAME WAY as we've Got the Other Source "Quran". So If that's Clear then plz NOTE this too that we NEED to RELATE every Hadith w Quran & Sunnah. If U r NOT fully Satisfied from ANY Hadith, U can Put it ASIDE without any Fear. The Hadith U've mentioned CAN be Explained to U but I'm daring to Say that "Ignore them & All those Hadith that r Creating Some Probles for U" & plz Tell me NOW that WHAT r ur other Genuine Objections on Present (according to u Sunni) Islam? I do Hope that If u really want to understand the Truth then you'll at least try to understand My point of View. Plz Keep in Mind that I can Give U & Mr samsher Proofs of Sunnah from the Quran BUT plz 1st answer My only ONE simple Q & that is: Why & How should I differentiate Between Quran & Sunnah (not Hadith) when I've received the BOTH from the SAME way i.e. through the "Ijmaa" & the "Tawaatur" of the Muslim Ummah? I hope that U also Believe that the Quran on which U people INSIST to follow ONLY is NOW in your hands thru the Process Described ABOVE. If Not then plz 1st Clear this point. Thanks Regards Hafiz Ibrahim[/size=2][/quote] [orange] Thanks for your reply, I haven't studied hadith/sunnah since I was in Highschool in Saudi. Ijmaa is 'collecting' right? I forgot what tawaatur is. So you think the only purpose of those letters is to name the sura? You say that we got both(quran&sunna) the same way, but I think someone could argue otherwise. If sunna is so important,why didn't Mohammed write it down himself or tell someone to write it down? They aren't direct words of Gabriel like the quran, and weren't collected until 200 years after his death. There is some wisdom in them no doubt, but from what I've seen too many people abuse it and form new laws over time. The effects of this abuse is I think the decline in the Middle eastern society who adhere sometimes to a certain interpretation of law over morality. The first few centuries after Islam came, muslims formed an advanced nation, so what happened now? What went wrong? The sunna seems too eerily similar to the chrisitian apostle case where the 'supposed' words of jesus and the apostles are equal to God's words, but to a lesser extent. I have to say I still dont understand entirely the differences you stress btwn hadith and sunna. so hadith is in 'hadith' books, and sunna is in 'touheed' books? what about 'fiqh' books, is that a mixture of the two? I If you think quran and sunna should be together, then what do you say of this aya? "When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier. And we place shields on their hearts, to prevent them from understanding Quran, and deafness in their ears. Consequently, when you preach your Lord IN THE QURAN ALONE they run away in aversion." (17:45,46) As for your question about rasoul almithak, this link has some info about 'messenger of the covenant' in english: http://www.submission.org/messenger/reflections.html this website: www.submission.org seems to be entirely dedicated to spreading Rashad's message if you want to hear more of his believers' views. and to aijaz, the 'complete' quran that shamser is referring to is the one without those two supposed false ayas, and small little changes in some 'harakat' that seem to be backed up with very accurate historical reference,namely the original golden quran, and happen to coincide with the 'mathematical miracle' of the quran. As I said earlier, I'm not completely on one side or the other, and am trying to verify and examine each side as much as I can. But I have to say that so far I'm leaning towards believing Rashad. The big thing stopping me is the reminder that SO MANY muslims around the world haven't even heard of him, so how can it be their fault? But then the Rashad believer's remind me that their fate is known only to God(taken from an aya about the 'jahileen' I think), because supposedly they haven't recieved the entire scripture. I'm trying to be as open mindeded as possible. hearing new things can be uncomfortable, and can even seem miserable at first because it disagrees with alot that you've been taught, but I think its out duty to study each side as much as we can. Me for example I haven't even been able to study in school that well because this is all I've been thinking about. sorry for the long post. May Allah guide us all. Abdullah [/orange] Edited by: ibrahim on Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:34 AM[/quote]
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