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[quote]isfi22===> salam....it is good that your father is getting well day by day.... about flood victims also we should pray and donate money as much as possible.... but not to the Govt. and UN organization.....they are less reliable.... [b]Edhi, doctors without borders or ZINDAGI TRUST (SHEZAD ROY) LIKE ORGANIZATIONS[/b] ARE more reliable..... May God help them...... now my dear brother ...first of all as saba2 said, you are great in writing and [b]too much writing[/b]....as poet said "aik phool ka mazmoon ho toh sow(100) rang se bandhoon" [b]u r really good[/b]...... but this is fast burger life....we need to say [b]little with big meaning[/b]...people have no time for detail...... but before we convince all nation....we have to convince our point [b]to each other first.[/b] me and saba2 said that [b]what u are saying is very very very good but it is not possible soon or nearly impossible [/b] provided the rigid and intolerant mental level of the nation.... but we can hope and we should hope for the best....and God can do anything.... [b]then to my surprise [/b] you are [b]upset with us what we never said: [/b]"woh baat jis ka saray fasanay mein zikr na tha; woh baat un ko bari nagawar guzri hai" [b][u]WHERE[/u] WE SAID THAT YOUR MODEL OF INQALAB IS [u]WRONG[/u]???[/b] SEE BELOW MY EARLIER COMMENTS: [quote] but it is true that what isfi22 is saying..... it could not happen, may be, in thousands years.... [/quote] [quote] [b][u]but I agree[/u][/b], we should have an IDEAL strategy in our mind and in our dreams if we want it in reality even 50% of it . [/quote] [quote] and [u][b]we should continue to try close to ideal system.[/b][/u]...wheather we would win or not in this world....we would definitely win by the grace of GOD, in [b]akhirah[/b] anyway, individually [/quote] THEN by responding to saba2 comments I said: [quote] if it is revolution like Mr isfi22 mentioned...[u][b]I love to be wrong....[/b][/u]but I also do not see it coming!!!!!!!!!! [/quote] [b]See[/b]!! we did [b]not [/b] say your model is wrong....we said it might take a century or almost impossible.... Yes !![b] u asked reasons....[/b] the reasons are "[b]1[/b])rigid, stubborn and taqleedi mind and [b]2[/b]) intolerance. ok now I would give you 1 month or 2 months or whatever time you want.... and you[b]select[/b] 2 kind of persons from your surrounding or family or friends : [b]one [/b] is believer of [b]sufism[/b] and [b]other[/b] is believer of [b]shiaism[/b]. you start your [b]convincing inqalab [/b] with them....and if you would succeed to change their ideas ....I would agree with you for your inqalab that [b]it may come SOOOOOOOOON[/b]..... otherwise not...... LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH YOU..... 1) they may get angry with you and no more further discussion. 2) they may listen to you and [b]then[/b] on your [b]first sitting [/b] with him, he may agree with your points and [b]then[/b] he would go to his scholars and [b]recharged[/b] from scholars, [b]then[/b] he would defend his case with different [b]books[/b] and different [b]hadees[/b].... [b]then[/b] you could not deny his books and hadees because he would say that my books of references are authentic, my hadees are authentic..[b]how dare you consider them as bunch of lies.[/b]...[b]then[/b] he again would get angry with you and discussion is over..... you r, i think, 14 or 15 yrs younger than me...(u r 24 what i recall???) [b]I have experienced such model of yours myself many times.....[/b] now I challenge you to do the same , I wish you would get successful. so start from today..... I will [b]trust[/b] you if you would tell me that you have changed one sufi-oriented or a shia guy into the right path.... GOD KNOWS BETTER Edited by: safimera on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:20 AM[/quote]
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