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[quote]"Bismillaah ar-Rahman ar-Raheem Qul a'uudhu birabbil falaq Min sharri ma khalaq Wa min sharri ghaasiqin idhaa waqab Wa min sharrin naffaathaati fil 'uqad Wa min sharri haasidin idhaa hasad" or "In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Merciful. Say: I seek refuge with the Lord of the Dawn From the mischief of created things; From the mischief of Darkness as it overspreads; From the mischief of those who practice secret arts; And from the mischief of the envious one as he practices envy." Wa Alaikum Assalaam Renee, You should never apologize for being American; you are what you are. How you are is another thing. Unfortunately, you chose to take offense to my post. That's fine. When the pilgrims first landed on Plymouth Rock stepping off the Mayflower, they were not occupiers, they were immigrants. Ellis Island is the most famous entry point for all historic immigrants in this nation. Every immigrants occupies space within the country to which they migrate. My statement about your forefathers shows the amnesia and selsctive memory in your history, not the darkness in my heart. But again, you have your opinion. You desribed yourself in your initial post as someone who once thought whites were better than other races. So, you surpassed the white superiority issue alhamduliAllah. My statement was concerning American superiority. When youstated don't bite the hand that feeds you, this means that the one doing the feeding is superior by being in an elevated and privileged postion to feed another, thus implying that th eone receiving food is inferior. And yes, public education is a refletion of our nation. Why would you say ,"this country of america exsist today, and has for 500yrs." when the UNited States of America became a sovereign nation in 1776. This is 228 years, and not 500 as you have stated. Youalso stated that indigenes live on reservations here. This is true, but they are NOT all marked off with fences as you erroneously stated. I live in California in the midst of a few reservations to the east and northwest of my city. The closest reservation is San Manuel and onlya sign lets you know you have entered "Indian territory." You also stated, "i hope that, this gives you more insight to my "american superiority" since you seem not to be an american, thou you live here. since i'm sure it's by choice. unlike me, i have no other country than this one." Sorry to disappoint you, Renee, but I am American born to AMERICAN parents who were also born and not naturalized. Having an opinion other than yours does not make me less American than you, alhtough that is how you seem to see it. Also, your history lesson is flawed, so I'll stick to other sources for history lessons. But thanks anyway. Lastly, you stated, "from the beginning of this discussion, i was given my opinion, to all the other opinions in the discussion. but since you had a problem with me, i thought that i would give you a taste of your arragance. which i'm sure you don't see." Thanks for giving your opinion to all posts in this thread. Sorry for you you felt i had a "problem" with you. Like you, i was giving my opinion on what you wrote in your post. That is the point of this, right? Sorry for you that you interpreted my post to be with arrogance as it was not my intention. Even if i was intending to be arrogant or not, is it very Muslim of you to set out to "give [me] a taste of [my] own arrogance" as you put it? You request that no one take offense to your post, but you did just that. I don't know you to dislike you, Renee. I have never met you or talked with you except this encounter we have had BRIEFLY online. So i think it is inappropriate for you to think what is in my heart, what i see and do not see, etc. I do not know you to from an opinion of you. I can only read what you wrote and form an opinion of what i have read. Pre-judging is not a virtue. Anyway, we have gone way off topic and whaty we are discusiing now hads nothing to do with the theme of this thread,as we are no longer discussing education options. Feel free to respond as you like; however, i won't go on an attack and counter attack rampage with you, as it's not really my style. I am here to take part in a postiive environment that fosters learning and is conducive to educated exchanges and debates, not personal ones. I sincerely wish you all the best with your husband and family and may Allah continue to guide and bless us all in the duniya and akhira. Fi Amani Allah (go with the safety of Allah) Your sister in Islam, Jameelah[/quote]
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