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Zulfee
USA
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 Posted - Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:50 AM 
YOU SAID: 3. To cover the chests. (This is specific to women alone.)
Don’t misguide others the wrong translations!!.
It is cover the chest with HEAD COVERINGS!! |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:54 AM
quote:
YOU SAID: 3. To cover the chests. (This is specific to women alone.)
Don’t dare misguiding others the wrong translations!!.
It is cover the chest with HEAD COVERINGS!! |
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Zulfee
USA
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Posted - Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:54 AM
quote:
YOU SAID: 3. To cover the chests. (This is specific to women alone.)
Don’t dare misguiding others the wrong translations!!.
It is cover the chest with HEAD COVERINGS!! |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 3:00 PM
Dear Zulfee:
Let the Qur'an be the judge between us. See what's written in Surah-e-Noor and you will find out who is misguiding; you or me. If you are referring to Sura-e-Ehzab, it’s specific background is already discussed.
Sincerely,
J. |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 12:53 PM
Wa'alaikumassalam.
I wonder how the word refers to the head veils.
I do not agree to the latter point also because, to the best of my knowledge, the way Arab women used to wear scarf, it did not cover their full hair. You may see the example of this custom in the movie: The Message.
Sincerely,
J. |
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lubnayasmin
SWEDEN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 1:33 PM
Assalamu alaikum. It would be appretiable if you talk about the Islamic way of show business more rather than typical criticism. it seems like that you watch the TV not only to gain knowledge but also to be judgemental to the permormers.
I agree with you that the performers should be simple as regular users for their cloths. But the other things you talked about that's because the TV company doesn't follow the Islamic way to run it. Other than how could it be possible to see those program which is forbidden in ISlam? |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:08 PM
I only mentioned the movie as an example. You can find out the details of how the Arab women used to cover their heads in the books of history.
Karen Armstrong writes in her book, Islam A Short History:
"The Quran prescribes some degree of segregation and veiling for the Prophet's wives, but there is nothing in the Quran that requires the veiling of all women or their seclusion in the separate part of the house. These customs were adopted some three or four generations after the Prophet's death. Muslims at that time were copying the Greek Christians of Byzantium, who had long veiled and segregated their women in this manner; they also appropriated some of their Christian misogyny... The women of the first ummah in Madina took full part in its public life, and some, according to Arab custom, fought alongside the men in battle. They did not seem to have experienced Islam as an oppressive religion, though later, as happened in Christianity, men would hijack the faith and bring it into line with the prevailing patriarchy."
(P. 14)
Edited by: JunaidHasan on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:13 PM |
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lubnayasmin
SWEDEN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:00 PM
| Assalam-u-Alaykum. I don't have so much knowledges. Junaid Hasan and Nida_e_Khair know a lot MashaAllah. I just explain my last statement. Muslim woman should know the Islamic rules or way of woman's life. Now a days one can see muslim woman as a professional singer, professional actress, professional model or professional dancer. My point is, There are lots of things which are absolutely forbidden, above though muslim woman are doing those. Obviously when muslim woman cross over the forbiden line, then it doesn't matter for them to hold make up. |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:27 PM
| Wa'alaikumassalam. Yes Lubna, I agree with you and, I think, we must keep reminding such women, wisely and politely, about Allah's directives for them. |
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JunaidHasan
GERMANY
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Posted - Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:29 PM
Wa'alaikumassalam Nida:
By quoting the above paragraph from Karen's book, I only wanted to present a viewpoint that is quite relevant to our main subject. And I didn't want to oppose your viewpoint by means of it.
As far as covering of the head is concerned, if you think it's necessary, you should do it but, I think, none of us has a right to impose our understanding of the D'in upon any one. However, it’s a good practice to cover the head and if someone adopts it, it’s the best.
Thanks.
J. |
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raushan
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
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Posted - Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 2:01 PM
The Third Parent
The Danger of Television
By Muhammad ash-Shareef
As Allah ta'ala states, it is part of our belief that we shall be questioned and are responsible for the following:
Verily! Hearing, Sight, and the heart, all will be questioned (by Allâh).
(Al-Israa 036)
And as Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - said, on the Day of Repayment, no one will move until they are asked about three things, one of them being ... "his youth - what did he exhaust it with?"
A close friend of mine told me his experience when leaving Canada to go overseas and study Islam. He said that he went to a person's house to say Salaam to the family and as he left he noticed the son - who was 7 years old at the time - slacked out on his stomach, chin locked in his two hands, staring deathly at the TV. He says, when he returned after a full 4 years, he entered the same house and found the same boy slacked out on his stomach, chin locked in his two hands, staring deathly at the TV - only now he was 4 years older.
Today - insha'Allah - we would like to speak about TV and it's dark side. It is not our intention to make you race home to throw the TV off the balcony - although that would be nice. It is our hope that you will leave today insha Allah with a better understanding of the destructive nature the TV has on a persons life and hereafter, not only his own, but also his family and children.
In Qawaa'id Fiqhiyyaah there is a principle that says, ‘Al Waasaa’il ta’khudhu Hukm al-Ghaayaat’ that ‘The means takes the same ruling as the intention of what is trying to be attained.’ A television set, with the wires, screen, box, and plug is nothing more than a means. It is what is trying to be attained by that box that makes it Haram or Halal. Similar to a gun, something that can be used for noble purposes, such as defending one’s land from aggression, or can be a means of considerable harm - especially when given to a child.
In an Arab ESL class, the teacher - as his opening class - would ask the students what English words were taken from the Arabic. A few hands would jerk up and say things like, ‘Chemistry from Keemiyaa’, Algebra from AlGebr, Physics from Feesiyaa’, etc.’ Then he would interestingly ask them what Arabic words were taken from the English, the answers come quick, ‘Raadiyo from Radio, Dosh from Satellite Dish, and of course Tilfaaz from TV.’
What did the west take from us, and what did we take from them?
Hence Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Fataawa 3/227:
"With regard to television, it is a dangerous device and its harmful effects are very great, like those of the cinema, or even worse.
We know from the research that has been written about it and from the words of experts in Arab countries and elsewhere enough to indicate that it is dangerous and very harmful to Islamic beliefs (‘aqeedah), morals and the state of society.
This is because it includes the presentation of bad morals, tempting scenes, immoral pictures, semi-nakedness, destructive speech, and Kufr.
It encourages imitation of their conduct and ways of dressing, respect for their leaders, neglect of Islamic conduct and ways of dressing, and looking down on the scholars and heroes of Islam. It damages their image by portraying them in an off-putting manner that makes people despise them and ignore them.
It shows people how to cheat, steal, hatch plots and commit acts of violence against others.
Without doubt, anything that produces so many bad results should be stopped and shunned, and we have to close all the doors that could lead to it. If some of our brothers denounce it and speak out against it, we cannot blame them, because this is a part of sincerity towards Allaah and towards other people."
In Sahih Al-Bukhaari, when Guraayj was praying and his mother called him, he said to himself, “O Allah, my Salah or my mother?” He did not know whether to continue his prayer or discontinue it and reply the wishes of his Mother. She cursed him. And her curse was one that we may inadvertently be doing to our children the day we sanctioned the introduction of the third parent called TV. She said, “May you see a prostitute!” She did not say, may there be any relationship between you and a prostitute, no she just said may you see one. HOW many times has the main theme of prime time TV revolved around prostitutes? HOW MANY TIMES have our children witnessed it? How many times have they been cursed to be in such a situation?
Abdullaah ibn ‘Umar - radi Allahu ‘anhu - once passed by some people killing time by playing chess. He became shocked at what was happening and angrily said to them - quoting the verse of Qur’an, “What are these IDOLS that you are standing in vigilance over?” What would he think if he saw the Ummah and its welcomed hug in most Muslim homes?
When a Muslim nation watches their country play in the world cup, over 3 million Muslims from that one country tune in. Times that by the duration of the match, 3 hours, and you’ll have 9 million hours of the Ummah’s time wasted on a football game. In one sweeping night. If Karl Marx said in 1844 that ‘Religion is the opium of the masses’, then what about TV?
Dear brothers and sisters, Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - said, “The person shall be (on the day of Judgement) with those that they love.” Tell that to a Muslim child, that on the Day of judgement, if they love Michael Jordan sooo much they’ll get to be with him on that horrific day. It’s sad, but most Muslim children would get happy and excited about the prospect - isn’t that enough to strike fear into our hearts? Who are the Muslim children really going to be with on the Day of Repayment? Most of them cannot tell you the names, just the names, of those people that we hope them to be with!
Let’s ask ourselves, if we gave a chance for our sons or daughters to put up a poster of their hero, the one whom they think is the ‘coolest’ - would it be their father or mother? Would it be the Prophet or his Companions? OR would it be a basketball player that he saw on TV? Or an actor (even cartoon) that he saw on TV? Or a model that she saw on TV? Or a musician that he/she saw on TV? Who would it be?
Ok, the TV is monitered in the house by the parent, correct? (95% of parents with children eight years old and up don’t monitor). Now what happens if the parent dies on the way to work one day and the children inherit the TV? Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - said, “There is not a single shepherd (Ameer) that Allah entrusted with a flock - who dies and in a state where he cheated them - except that Allah shall forbid him from entering paradise!” The ‘Ulumaa would quote this hadith in light of the father in a Muslim country that would allow a Satellite Dish to enter his family which Allah entrusted him with.
Dear brothers and sisters, we are not here on earth to entertain ourselves to death. We are an Ummah with a Risaalah! When Rib’ee ibn ‘Aamir - radi Allahu ‘anhu - stood in the hands of the king of Persia, he announced the message as clear and as proud as every Muslim should,
“Allah sent us to rescue humanity from slavery to slaves - to the slavery of the Lord of all slaves; And to rescue them from the choke of the material life to the expanse of this life and the next, and from the corruption of the cults to the justice of Islam!”
If we don’t know how to read Qur’an, why aren’t we registering for the Qur’an institute here at Al-Huda. If we don’t know the language of the Qur’an and Sunnah, why aren’t we registering for the Arabic institute? If we don’t know about the life of Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - and his companions - radi Allahu ‘anhum - why aren’t we coming to the Seerah and Fiqh classes on Fridays and Saturdays?
Doesn’t Allah ta’ala tell us in the Qur’an:
(An-Nur 030)
Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do.
How do reconcile those verses with the television that assaults our eyes with Haram almost every second that it is on? How do we reconcile it?
Have you heard of Cupid? Of course we have. They portray Cupid in cartoons and comedies as a chubby child with wings who is supposed to be the Angel of Love, shooting arrows of ‘love’ when the male looks at the female. Rather dear brothers and sisters, it is Iblees! For Rasul Allah - sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam - told us, "Verily the ‘look’ is a poisoned arrow from the arrows of Iblees!”
Shaykh At-Tahhaan once told his students, “It was late at night when our phone rang one day. This Muslimah whispered into the phone, ‘Is this Shaykh At-Tahhaan?’ I said, ‘Yes it is me.’ She kept saying is it really you? And he said, ‘Yes, what is wrong?’ At that she just started sobbing and sobbing into the phone. After some time, she explained, ‘The children’s father bought a TV and video 2 days ago. Tonight I found my young son practicing the Haraam that he saw on his younger sister!’ Then she collapsed sobbing again.”
Everything starts with a look / and big fires start from a little spark
Turn OFF TV, Turn ON Life
After a grueling first year in the Faculty of Shari’ah, I came home to Canada where I spoke to a friend whom I hadn’t spoken to for over a year. In the conversation he said, “Last night on TV Seinfeld said...” I was puzzled and realized that for an entire year I had not heard anything other than Imam Shaafi’ee said, and Imam Abu Hanifa said. It was an ignorance that as Shaykh Abdul Muhsin ‘Al-Abbaad would say that "we ask Allah ta’ala to increase us in its ignorance."
Some people argue that TV is just a harmless avenue of entertainment and that there should not be a big deal made about it. It is interesting however that we see in Shari’ah that what is more deadly than Haram is Bid’ah. Why you ask? Because when someone does Haram like eating pork, he knows it is Haram and that one day it is hoped that knowledge will lead him to fear Allah and refrain. Bid’ah - on the other hand - is something a person does with the hope of reward from Allah, something that the person considers to be ‘harmless’. It is deadlier because the chances of this person correcting the situation are less due to the ignorance which causes lack of motivation.
Other people will say that we have a TV for the news and Islamic or educational programs? Dear brothers and sisters, is there no other avenue to get the news? Is there no other means by which a child can be educated and stimulated to learning?
Didn’t anyone ask why we get all this ‘FREE’ TV? What does the TV sell? No it doesn’t sell Coke or Nike or McDonalds burgers, it sells the AUDIENCE to ADVERTISING COMPANIES! Why do you think they charge $1 million for 30 seconds of advertising in a Superbowl game?
Consider these facts:
Brand loyalty starts at age 2 - they can snatch a child into a lifetime of allegiance to their product from that tender age. How old were you when you started loving Coke or Pepsi?
On average, a viewer watches 20,000 commercials each year. If we repeated a page of Qur’an to you that many times, do you think you would memorize it?
This is just for the products, what about the ‘Aqeedah that they are being taught, a whole stack of beliefs that gets fed to them every time they sit to listen to their third parent. Where are the horrific stats for that?
To give just a simple example that we all know, go to a lecture where the Imam is talking about women’s rights in Islam. Listen to the Muslim males and females debate with the Imam. Where did they get their points? Where did they become so hostile to anything that contradicts the Western view of women’s rights? Why is there no hostility to the Western view?
Most of it was learnt on TV, the rest was learnt in the public school curriculum.
If this is the programming, the brain washing of our youth, then where shall they be reprogrammed when they prefer the TV over anyone else? Dear brothers and sisters, it is a fact that more than half of American children would rather watch TV than spend time with their mother or father.
After surveying a lot of young children and asking them what is the one thing that they would sacrifice their favorite TV shows for, many replied that if there were some sort of outside activity they would give preference to that. Meaning, if someone took them by the hand and organized some after school activities they would embrace the idea.
Here are some other things that you can do instead of being shackled to the TV. The option is yours:
Play outdoor games.
Build extra curricular skills, such as martial arts or calligraphy or sewing.
Visit the library.
Take on a job where they one can become serious about life and work.
Do acts of worship such as reciting dhikr and wird, salaah, reading Qur’aan, fasting, and thinking about the signs of Allaah in His creation.
Adopt an Islamic cause in the place where you live, and take part in it, such as teaching Muslim girls.
Support an Islamic magazine by sending articles, statistics and useful information of interest concerning Muslims in the West.
Take part in charitable projects to help Muslim orphans, widows, divorcees and elderly, or joining a committee to help organize social programs and celebrations for Muslims on Eid.
Find righteous friends to meet with and good neighbors to visit.
Read Islamic books in particular and useful stories in general.
Take part in da’wah activities, men or women’s activities and preschool programs in Islamic centers.
Listen to tapes and lectures, write summaries of them, and distribute the summaries to anyone who could benefit from them.
Do arts and crafts
Cook items to be sold to raise funds for the Islamic center.
Take an interest in computers and computer programs. This is a vast field that can fill a lot of time, and the computer can be used to do a lot of good things as well as providing entertainment in the form of permissible games.
Spinning, weaving, cutting out and sewing.
Gardening.
Exercising outside or at home.
In conclusion dear brothers and sisters, today is the beginning of a new day. Allah gave us this day to use as we will. We can waste it or use it for something good and beneficial.
But let us know that what we do today is important because we are exchanging a day of our life for it. When tomorrow comes, this day will be gone forever; and in it's place shall be something that we left behind ... lets let it be something good and something beneficial.
http://www.zawaj.com/articles/television_danger.html |
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marwan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, November 6, 2006 - 12:14 PM
re Junaid
quote:
The verse of Surah-e-Ehzab that you are referring to was revealed in the special circumstances in which there was a great threat to the Muslim women due to some characterless men. It cannot be generalized as an order for all the Muslim women living in normal circumstances. The permanent orders of hijab, for the Muslim women, are there in Surah-e-Noor. Please see the commentaries of both of the surahs for details.
I have no intention of dealing with all issues that are wrong, but for this one.
Just as a general point, unless Allah makes the qualification, all verses of the Qur'an are for all times. Asbaabunuzuul is really a joke. It is merely one of the other ways (along with the figh and hadith etc.. liturature) to take away from and reinterpret the Qur'an.
I challange Junaid to find Qur'anic justification for this practice. Given the MANY statements regarding its completeness etc...
Consider, how can you consider the Qur'an preserved and complete, when according to you and your like, it requires other sources, which are less preserved than it to understand it?
Its rediculous, Muslims take the Qur'an as something to be abandoned.
With hadith and asbaabunuzuul you can reinterpret qur'anic ayahs in a manner not indicated by the Qur'an. You totally strip the Qur'an of its authority, when you make is subservient to other sources for explanation.
It makes me sick.
Edited by: marwan on Monday, November 06, 2006 12:29 PM |
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marwan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, November 6, 2006 - 12:17 PM
Salaam Junaid, you seem willing to debate the topic of the the Qur'an and the hadith. I would side with zulfee more than with you. I am willing to have a civilised debate on this issue. Are you willing? we can start a new thread.
At your convenience. |
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marwan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, November 6, 2006 - 12:23 PM
Regarding the tv issue.
I feel that yes, the muslim women generally wear too much make up and they are certainly trying to look pleasing. No two ways about it.
Regarding the male scholars, it strikes me often that especially when in the west they are more liberal (zakir naik being an exception as far as I know). They tend to take great efforts to remove any element of violence from Islam, any element of fighting against oppressors (because they are PAYING TAX IN THESE COUNTRIES, eg, Hamza yusuf). And no doubt the arab ones, speak without reference to their own governments or dictatorships.
They are spineless wimps in my estimation.
Edited by: marwan on Monday, November 06, 2006 3:34 PM |
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marwan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, November 6, 2006 - 3:32 PM
regarding being extravagant or wasteful: -
Children of Adam! Wear your adornment in every mosque and eat and drink but do not be wasteful. He does not love the wasteful.
(Qur'an, 7:31)
It is He Who produces gardens, both cultivated and wild, and palm-trees and crops of diverse kinds, and olives and pomegranates, both similar and dissimilar. Eat of their fruits when they bear fruit and pay their due on the day of their harvest, and do not be profligate. He does not love the wasteful.
(Qur'an, 6:141)
Give your relatives their due, and the very poor and travellers but do not squander what you have. Squanderers are brothers to the satans, and satan was ungrateful to his Lord.
(Qur'an, 17:26-27)
Those who, when they spend, are neither extravagant nor mean , but take a stance mid way between the two;
(Qur'an, 25:67)
So being extravagant is being wasteful and Allah hates that.
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"They ask you about intoxicants and games of chance. Say: In both of them there is a great sin and means of profit for people, and their sin is greater than their profit. And they ask you as to what they should spend. Say: What is superfluous. Thus does Allah make clear to you the verses, that you may ponder/think"
Implying that we should spend of our resources (in zakaah and sadaqah) what is superfluous, what is beyond our need. This implies that if we go crazy with stuff beyond our need, like very expensive cloths, big expensive cars etc... and give less then we are being miserly.
The above ayah tells us how much to spend in charity.
Restrain yourself patiently with those who call on their Lord morning and evening, desiring His face. Do not turn your eyes from them, desiring the attractions of this world . And do not obey someone whose heart We have made neglectful of Our remembrance and who follows his own whims and desires and whose life has transgressed all bounds.
(Qur'an, 18:28)
We should not be so concerned with the attractions of this world.
So I think the general position is that we should not be extravagant, we should live within our means and give in zakaah and sadaqah that with is beyond our needs.
So realistically a lavish anything is against the spirit of Allah's revelation.
Hope this helps |
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oosman
USA
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Posted - Monday, November 6, 2006 - 4:22 PM
After reading the thread you posted a link to, I believe some people think it is logical that the Qur'an asks to cover the bosom with the head covering implying that the head must have been covered to begin with.
Such a logic is not right. The head covering was not necessarily used to cover the head. It was merely laid over some of the hair or the shoulders, and was loose. The women of that time used to wear shirts with huge necks, so their bossoms would show through the neck line. This was convenient for breast feeding mothers. The verse is inline with this interpretation that it asks the women to keep their bossoms covered with the piece of cloth called head covering.
Even in many muslim countries today where women wear 'dupatta', it is merely folded over the shoulders to cover the bossom, and not necessarily the head. Even though it is a head covering, but it is rarely used to cover the head.
It is good that you have your interpretation, but it is wrong to demand others follow your interpretation. So whoever woman wants to do the head covering, it is her personal choice, and we must respect her interpretation of the Qur'an.
You should take a look at:
http://www.headscarf.net/index2.htm |
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