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 Topic initiated on Saturday, April 26, 2003 - 5:39 PM 
Love or Fear
Most people suffer from the illusion that love and fear are two distinct and disparate emotions. They always stand at enmity to each other. But I perceive that the one is the ultimate outcome of the second. |
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aslam
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 5:17 PM 
Assalam-u-Alaikum,
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Interesting!!!Would u elaborate a bit more? |
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admin
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 2:48 AM
| Fear arises from losing something that you love |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 4:42 PM
Fear arises from other things as well; destitute, disease, death.......
However, the eternal Love sheaths all fears. Only needs to be fittingly directed. For true love fears naught... |
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Jhangeer Hanif
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 8:17 PM
| Properly viewed, emotions working behind disease, death are also love of life or health. So, whenever there is love, there is fear. That you should not lose something you hold dear. |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 10:40 PM
I suppose, generally speaking, there are certain things that us humans tend to take for granted. The love for them (health, comfortable living etc.) is not realized till we are about to lose them.
That being said, we cannot pursue any love unless it is greater than the fear that is contained within. |
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Jhangeer Hanif
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:00 PM
We may say that we feel an intense form of 'Love' when we are about to lose what we love. But the fact that both emotions exist side by side cannot be denied.
The question that propmpted the discussion is that: Why fear God and not love Him? The point is that as soon as we fall in love with someone, the emotions of fear find place withing our hearts. Love is a prelude to the emotions of fear and not vice versa. |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 2:37 PM
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Jhangeer Hanif
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 8:42 PM
| This agreed; the next question arises, exactly what kind of fear we must develop of Allah? |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 10:02 PM
1. If we truly love someone, we would never betray them; we would abide by the rules that an honest relationship is built upon. The same goes for the relationship with Allah. This can be categorized as a superior relationship based on love for Allah.
2. If we believe that we would be held responsible in the hereafter for our deeds in this world; if we believe in hell, we would try not to trespass the limits set by Allah. This probably would be a lesser relationship based for the most part on fear.
Both the relationships however, are based on true belief. |
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aslam
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 3:36 AM
Assalam_o-Alaikum,
Losing the Pleasure of Allah should be the basis
of our fear of Allah.When we fear a lion,a beast
we run from it,but when we fear Allah we run towards Him. |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 5:55 AM
Moderators
I am so looking forward to your views..
Thanks. |
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Jhangeer Hanif
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 6:26 AM
Sorry for the delayed response.
You say someone may develop a relationship with Allah on love whereas someone else on fear of hellfire etc. Your explanation seems good and convinicing, intellectually.
I however have a question for you. Have you ever seen a person whose relationship is based mostly on fear?
I percieve the possibility is remote. I dare say that, as far as relationship with Allah is concerened, love and fear translates into each other.
More simply, sometimes it is love of Allah that causes us to act upon His commandments and somtimes it is fear of His rage that causes us to do as He says.
Both emotions exist in every normal believing person. So there is no question of inferior or superior relationship. |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 9:07 AM
I agree with you wholeheartedly that fear and love for Allah translate into each other.
However, I would like to explain my previous post in a different light.
I have seen people who obey Allah for the love of Him primarily and refrain from committing sins for the love of Him as well.
Others act the same. However, the motive predominantly is to save their own skin. The love for the Creator is never missing but not the commanding force either. The commanding force is the belief that they would be held answerable for their deeds.
The line of distinction is thin but exists for sure.
You are right about there being no question of a superior or an inferior relationship.
We may say people stand at different levels in the eyes of the Lord. As to that, Allah alone knows best.
Allah’s mercy is the greatest. |
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Jhangeer Hanif
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 5:56 AM
In the different light, your explanation is accepted. Thus, agreed on the point.
One thing however demands more explanation.
Is it desirable that a balance between love and fear be sought? What a believer should really do regarding his relationship with God? |
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ayesha
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 9:49 AM
This is a very good question...
I don't understand how a balance could be 'sought' between love and fear of God. Belief is the basic thing. Love and fear are the offshoots of this basic element. The extents of the two respectively can vary from person to person.
In a nutshell, fear of God should restrain us from taking God for granted. While love for God should keep our hope alive. |
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