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aslam

PAKISTAN
Topic initiated on Saturday, July 12, 2003  -  5:24 PM Reply with quote
Causes of Downfall


Assalam-u-alaikum,
What are causes which led to the downfall of Muslims?
How should Muslims salvage their lost glory and prestige?
admin

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, July 12, 2003  -  8:28 PM Reply with quote
In a nutshell two causes have contributed to this downfall:

1. Severing ties with the Qura'n
2. Having no standing in the fields of science and technoology

Regaining lost glory would depend on overcoming the above two obstacles
imran776

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Sunday, July 13, 2003  -  1:12 AM Reply with quote
Assalam-u-alaikum,
God has guided us in two ways :

a) trhough nature
b) through his messangers and Holy Books in matters in which chances of doing wrong by human beings are very high.

If a person does not take guidance from his nature then i guess his chances of taking guidance from Quran are very very less.

So I think that not taking guidance from nature (which although is not complete but covers most or much of the part) is also a main reason of downfalls of muslims which must be highlighted.
admin

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, July 13, 2003  -  2:50 AM Reply with quote
Yes I would agree and hence add to it to the list to make it three
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, July 14, 2003  -  4:07 PM Reply with quote
Salams,
Thank u for ur replies!
Would u elaborate a bit more how did the link with the Quran got severed?
admin

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, July 15, 2003  -  12:49 AM Reply with quote
Gradually the only role left for the Quran was that it was read without being understood or understood without being read
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, July 15, 2003  -  3:21 PM Reply with quote
Perceptive comments!
U say"understood without being read"Please would u like to elucidate this point?
Jhangeer Hanif

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, July 15, 2003  -  3:38 PM Reply with quote
Approaching the Holy Qur'an with a fixed mindset. That you already have made up your mind about an issue before you read the Holy Book.
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, July 16, 2003  -  6:57 PM Reply with quote
Assalam,
Jahangir Hanif,
Thank for ur reply!Ur absolutely right.If one surrenders oneself to The Quran,it yields
the treasures it brims with.



Edited by - aslam on July 16 2003 18:58:46
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, July 16, 2003  -  7:01 PM Reply with quote
Assalam-u-Alaikum,
Can we count Sufism as one of the causes of Muslims, downfall?
Jhangeer Hanif

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, July 16, 2003  -  8:10 PM Reply with quote
Assalmu alaykum

Every movement, that takes the Muslims away from the Holy Qur'an, is responsible for their downfall.
Tariq Hashmi

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, July 16, 2003  -  8:11 PM Reply with quote
Assalam O alaikum
Sufism obscured the true picture of the real concept of the religion and hindered its effective propagation. This must have cast negative effects.
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Thursday, July 17, 2003  -  5:10 PM Reply with quote
Assalam o Alaikum,
Thank u for ur replies!
Some scholars insist that the Downfall of Mu,tazilas was one of the causes of Muslim Downfall. Do u agree?
Jhangeer Hanif

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, July 22, 2003  -  9:49 AM Reply with quote
I'd rather relate the downfall to the general attitude of the Muslims istead of relating it to some faction.
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, August 1, 2003  -  8:02 PM Reply with quote
Salamoona,
I think that the ascendence of Ashaarites led to the blind following(taqlid) which is one of the
causes of Muslim downfall.
Jhangeer Hanif

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, August 1, 2003  -  8:29 PM Reply with quote
Agreed. Bling following is one major cause for the downfall of the Muslim Ummah. Did you ever think why blind following gained acceptance among the masses?

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