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nads786
UNITED KINGDOM
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 Topic initiated on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 12:47 PM 
womans position in islam
Women's Position in Islam
By Ayman Samy
Praise be to God and may God bless Mohammad His messenger (peace be upon him).
God created both females and males from one origin, and one soul. {It is He Who created you from a single person and made his mate of like nature in order that he might dwell with her (in love)} (A’raf 189)
Adam appreciated Eve’s worth and they lived together practicing all the meanings of love, kindness, respect, and appreciation. Then as years passed new generations were brought up away from God’s Law, not guided by Him and their lives not brightened by His message, which led to recurring disasters.
For a long time, women have suffered disrespect to the extent that in some religions, parents have prayed to be blessed with male children.
Then if a girl was born, this meant shame, misery and bitterness for the parents which could only be taken away by burying the daughter alive. If she survived, then the misery survived with her and she lived as a negligible object which could be owned and never own, with no freedom in her actions, hopeless and dispirited. Some religions even allowed her to be sold like a cow is sold, or if they were kind to her, they rented her for a limited period.
In societies where statues were worshipped, if many girls had been borne to a family and they couldn’t support them, they would leave them in fields to be killed by wild animals or die from the night frost without feeling any regret or remorse.
With all of that in mind, what would you expect about educating and culturing them?
Even when it was time for her to be married, she was married to someone she didn’t want, and by the form of Shughar Marriage (which is a form of marriage without a dowry) or exchanged or traded (where a husband may send his wife to another man for the purpose of having a male child) or sold. Then what would the price of the woman be in these societies? It would be the number of bulls being given to her dad.
Then how can she live with the man who bought her for the price of bulls?!
She has to work as a servant, fetching water from the rivers, carrying out the house keeping and with no objections to also helping her husband in his trade. Then if he gets angry for any reason and leaves her, she becomes suspended, neither a wife nor able to remarry. What a bitter life she’s living, away from God’s Law following human decreed laws such as the one written by one of those who had gone astray “The man is the lord, he has to order. The woman is the follower, she has to obey”.
What an unfair judgment.
And if this is the situation of married women, then what about those who are forced into prostitution?
Your forgiveness God, for those who have no respect for God.
And you can imagine a woman from one of the societies sitting and waiting to be burned alive and the crime that she committed is nothing but that her husband has died and she has to follow him with dutiful acceptance, until they buried around 6000 women in 10 years.
All these wrongdoings were asked to be stopped by God’s messengers whenever they were sent because God doesn’t like wrongdoers. And those wicked people who changed God’s Law, did not stop sullying the women with their dirty tricks but also changed the first testimony, adding in that women were something to be ashamed of, all of which God’s Law is totally innocent of. The same thing also happened in changing the bible and even in the 5th Century when the Makony Group, whom Christians believe are holy, gathered to discuss the origin of the Woman. They discussed whether she is a body with no soul, or whether she has a soul just like men, and the decision was that she does have a soul.
Thank God for that, but the matter hadn’t finished yet! They decided that she had a wicked soul which will not escape punishment with the exception of Jesus’ mother for she is the only woman whom they believed would escape Hell-fire.
O how much suffering have women had to bear?! Until God permitted Islam’s light to brighten the earth by God’s Law and His light and His guidance.
Look and you will see believers (both men and women), and Muslims ( both men and women), near Al Kaaba facing it and prostrating towards it, all together. {And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them: “Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female: ye are members, one of another”}(Al-i-‘Imran 195)
Yes, duties to God are for both men and women, with the reward of Heaven, and so men and women are equal. {The Believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practice regular charity, and obey God and his Apostle. On them will God pour his mercy: for God is exalted in power, Wise. * God hath promised to his Believers, men and women, Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of God: that is the supreme felicity.} (Tauba 71/72)
God is great, His Law which he layed down to people is all light and all goodness. {Should He not know, -He that created? And He is the One that understands the finest mysteries (and) is well acquainted (with them)} (Mulk 14)
God’s Law made man and his sister, the woman, equal in many duties and responsibilities for you are all carers and you are all responsible for those in your care.
And also, God’s Law makes the woman and her brother, the man, completely equal in both rewards and punishments {whoever works evil will be requited accordingly. Nor will he find, besides God, any protector or helper* If any do deeds of righteousness, - be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven and not the least injustice will be done to them.}(Nisaa 123/124)
Islam gave women rights in this life: human; social; economic and legal rights.
From her human rights:
The right to live; from before she arrives in this world, a baby in her mother’s womb, Islam took care of her rights and banned killing her for God has banned the killing of souls, both of men and women {Nor take life – which God Has made sacred – except for just cause}(Al Isra 33)
And once she is born, Islam banned killing her or burying her alive. {When the female (infant) buried alive, is questioned – for what crime she was killed} (Takwir 8/9)
And ordered for he to be brought up well and promised a great reward for this, such as avoiding the punishment of Hell and the reward of entry to Heaven and being closer to the Apostle (peace be upon him) in there.
The prophet (peace be upon him) said in the hadeeth which has been agreed as truth, from the Hadeeth of Aisha (mother of Muslims) “Whomever is blessed with girls and then does well by them in bringing them up, it will be a protector for him from Hell-fire” (Saheeh Al Targheeb 1968)
And so Muslim says in his recording of the Hadeeth by Anas that God’s prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) said “Whoever looks after 2 girls until they are mature, on the Day of Judgment he and I will be. Then he brought his 2 fingers together” (Saheeh Al Targheeb 1970)
Says Jaaber that the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) said “Whoever has three girls, and gives them a refuge, clothes them, and is kind to them, he will surely be rewarded by Heaven. So one of the men from the land asked him ‘What about 2 girls?’ and he replied “And the same for 2 girls” ( Saheeh Al Adab 58)
And so God made men and women equal in their human pride and so God Almighty says {We have honoured the sons of Adam} (Al Isra 70)
And so He made men and women equal in rewards, both in life and in the after-life, as we have illustrated previously. {Whoever works righteousness, man or woman and has faith, verily, to him We will give a new Life, a life that is good and pure, and We will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions} (Nahl 97)
{If any do deeds of righteousness – be they male or female – and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them} (Nisaa 124)
As also He gave her the right to express her opinions and to be consulted.
And the day she complained, God heard her complaint from the top of the seven skies, and sent part of the Quran concerning her situation, which is recited until the Day of Judgment. {God has indeed heard (and accepted) the statement of the woman who pleads with thee concerning her husband and carries her complaint (in prayer) to God: and God (always) hears the arguments between both sides among you: for God hears and sees (all things)} (Mujadila 1)
And as for her social rights:
GOD gave her the right to be educated and to be taught how to behave, exactly like her brother, the man {O ye who believe! Save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is Men (i.e. mankind) and stones}(Tahrim 6)
And the Prophet Mohammad had advised of the importance of education, as in the Hadeeth by Anas, recorded by Al Tarmathy that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said “Education is compulsory for every Muslim” (Al Targheeb 72)
And so this Hadeeth shows that there is no difference between a man and woman in this religion when it comes to learning.
So was it confirmed in the true Sunnah that the Prophet (peace be upon him) had advised for a woman (Hafsa) to be educated and insisted on her being taught to write.
And it is the woman’s right over her brother and her father of claiming alimony {But he (the father of the baby following a separation) shall bear the cost of their food and clothing}(Baqara 233)
And when Hind, the wife of Abu Sufyan, complained to the Prophet (peace be upon him) that her husband was mean and tightfisted and didn’t give her enough money for her and her children, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her “ Take what you need for you and your children” (Al Nisaa’y 5010)
And also it is the woman’s right to pick her own husband who is suitable for her and as the Prophet (peace be upon him) said “ The woman who has been married before has the right to make the decision on her future marriages, and for an unmarried girl, her father must seek her approval and if she is silent then that is a sign of her approval” (The True Series 1807)
And if a father marries one of his daughters without her approval, the Prophet (peace be upon him) nullifies the marriage and this is recorded in Saheeh Al Bukhary.
Islam made the dowry a woman’s right and Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala says {And give the women (on marriage) the dower as a free gift} ( Nisaa 4)
And He gave her the right to enjoy her husband and decreed that the maximum length of time a husband can be separated from his wife is 4 months. If he comes back after the 4 months then it is fine, but if he doesn’t then she can take her case to court, and says Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala {For those who take an oath for abstention from their wives, a waiting for four months is ordained; if then they return, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful* But if their intention is firm for divorce, God heareth and knoweth all things} (Al Bakara 226/227)
And she has the right to live well whether she is a mother {We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents} (Ahqaf 15) or a wife {live with them on a footing of kindness and equity} (Nisaa 19) or even other than that, for she is not forced after marriage to live with a man she doesn’t love, and she has the right to choose to separate from him for a legal reason.
If a married couple are going to separate, then here is shown the woman’s rights over her ex-husband, for she is entitled to alimony during the period of 3 months after the divorce during which she cannot remarry. And it is her right to breastfeed her baby and so Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala says {The mother shall give suck to their offspring for two whole years, if the father decides to complete the term} (Bakara 233)
And this right to breastfeed her own babies is definite whether she is married or separated from her husband.
And so it is her right, whether she is married or separated from her husband, the custody of her children.
Islam also gave women her own rights in inheritance {From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and a share for women, whether the property be small or large, - a determinate share} (Nisaa 7)
And gave her social rights:
For she owns and sells, buys and gives. In short, women in Islam have their own financial independence.
As for her legal rights:
She is a fully capable human being, who has got rights to appeal or to be a witness.
In the end, we have only touched on this huge topic here, but have you truly ever seen a Law so kind to women as this, or even half of this? But as Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala says {Truly it is not their eyes that are blind, but their hearts which are in their breasts} (Hajj 46)
All quotes used from the Quran where taken from the The Holy Qur’an translation and commentary by A. Yusuf Ali, (published by Islamic Propagation Centre International, Durban) |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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 Posted - Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 6:49 PM 
| even in islam a woman is the toy in the hands of a man in the context of dvorce and more than one wife. |
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nads786
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 1:46 PM
i disagree a woman isnt a toy in the hands of a man your comment about polygamy is actually quite sensitive
polygamy was introduced to help not to punish women at the time of the prophet muhd and whilst the war women were losing their husbands and were left alone to cope with their children the prophet stated that men should remarry widows not just for sexual reasons but to act as father figures over orphaned children there certain restrictiions in refrence to polygamy its not widely accepted even the prophet muhd practised monogamy for 25 years of his life whilst married to khatija we as muslims believe him as guide for us to follow marriage numerous times isnt for pleasure ! |
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Rakhtal
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:27 PM
Quote: Yes, duties to God are for both men and women, with the reward of Heaven, and so men and women are equal. {The Believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practice regular charity, and obey God and his Apostle. On them will God pour his mercy: for God is exalted in power, Wise. * God hath promised to his Believers, men and women, Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of God: that is the supreme felicity.} (Tauba 71/72)
Where is in the translation of the verse, “and so men and women are equal” that you have added? |
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Rakhtal
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 10:27 PM
Quote: Yes, duties to God are for both men and women, with the reward of Heaven, and so men and women are equal. {The Believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil: they observe regular prayers, practice regular charity, and obey God and his Apostle. On them will God pour his mercy: for God is exalted in power, Wise. * God hath promised to his Believers, men and women, Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of everlasting bliss. But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of God: that is the supreme felicity.} (Tauba 71/72)
Where is in the translation of the verse, “and so men and women are equal” that you have added? |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 2:29 PM
you said……….polygamy was introduced to help not to punish women at the time of the prophet muhd and whilst the war women were losing their husbands and were left alone to cope with their children the prophet stated that men should remarry widows not just for sexual reasons but to act as father figures over orphaned children there certain restrictiions in refrence to polygamy its not widely accepted even the prophet muhd practised monogamy for 25 years of his life whilst married to khatija we as muslims believe him as guide for us to follow marriage numerous times isnt for pleasur
i disagree because U are wrong to say about the purpose of polygamy. if the purpose were only to support the widows and her children then there would not be any restrction of 4 marriages but accoding to capacity of the man which he could keep the wives and afford even more than the four.
cannot a rich man bring up even 400 widows and her children?????????? |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 2:29 PM
you said……….polygamy was introduced to help not to punish women at the time of the prophet muhd and whilst the war women were losing their husbands and were left alone to cope with their children the prophet stated that men should remarry widows not just for sexual reasons but to act as father figures over orphaned children there certain restrictiions in refrence to polygamy its not widely accepted even the prophet muhd practised monogamy for 25 years of his life whilst married to khatija we as muslims believe him as guide for us to follow marriage numerous times isnt for pleasur
i disagree because U are wrong to say about the purpose of polygamy. if the purpose were only to support the widows and her children then there would not be any restrction of 4 marriages but accoding to capacity of the man which he could keep the wives and afford even more than the four.
cannot a rich man bring up even 400 widows and her children?????????? |
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nads786
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 4:44 PM
When is Polygamy allowed in Islam?
The sections of this article are:
- When is polygamy allowed in Islam?
- What was the purpose of Noble Verse 4:3?
- The way I read Noble Verse 4:3.
- Why didn't Allah Almighty directly prohibit polygamy?
- Why then did Prophet Muhammad practice polygamy?
- Can anyone be absolutely fair?
- Too much illiterate and starving kids damage the society and Islam.
- What if the person is rich and can afford polygamy?
- Conclusion.
Marriage from multiple women in Islam might not be allowed for those who might result in damaging the society with their marriage by bringing more illiterate, poor, and in many cases starving children to the society.
Let us look at Noble Verse 4:3 "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice." Notice how Allah Almighty orders men to be either fair to their wives or never marry more than one wife.
Let us look at Noble Verse 4:129 "Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." Here we clearly see that Allah Almighty tells men that they will never be fair to their wives.
Let us see why then Allah Almighty temporarily ordered polygamy but yet very highly discouraged it, and why I personally believe from the Noble Quran that polygamy should not be allowed today to most Muslim men in the Muslim world.
What was the purpose of the Noble Verse 4:3?
Noble Verse 4:3 was revealed to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in Madina after he migrated to it from Mecca and established an Islamic state there right after the battle of Uhud in which the Muslims not only had lost badly against the Pagans, but also suffered a dramatic decrease in the number of Muslim men. The Muslim men before that battle were approximately 700. They became only 400 after the battle. This loss had left so many Muslim women (1) Widows, and (2) Not able to get married if they were single.
To make matters even worse, the Muslims had faced yet another battle against the Pagans in Mecca and its neighboring tribes who wanted to attack the Muslims in Madina to finish off Islam once and for all, and by the Jews and the Christians in Madina who betrayed the Muslims in the "battle of Trench" after signing a defense treaty with Muhammad peace be upon him against the Pagans.
All praise due to Allah Almighty. With Allah's Will and Mercy, the Muslims had miraculously won the battle against the Pagans of Mecca and drove them back to where they came from, and then attacked the Jews and the Christians who betrayed the defense treaty and kicked those hypocrites out of Madina forever!
These continuous battles against the Muslims were very costly in terms of Muslim men's lives. The women had to be taken care of one way or another. For this reason, Allah Almighty had revealed the Noble Verse 4:3 to Muhammad peace be upon him to solve the social problems that the Muslims were facing. That is why at the very beginning of the Noble Verse 4:3 we see Allah Almighty setting a conditional clause for Orphans "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans...(4:3)." This Noble Verse came down for the purpose of protecting the Orphans and to increase the number of the Muslims by allowing the men to marry multiple wives (preferably from the grown Orphans at that time), up to four wives only. The purpose was absolutely not for man's sexual pleasure nor privilege, nor was it to support man's personal ego. It was revealed to solve a major social problem to prevent major sins such as illegal sex and prostitution.
Polygamy is not encouraged in the Noble Quran, nor Allah Almighty had allowed it because He really liked it. He was clearly careful to highly discourage polygamy to men by telling them "but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one...(4:3)" which clearly orders men to either be fair or to not marry at all, despite the fact that we lost many men, Allah Almighty still didn't want polygamy to really take place. That's why He later told men "Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire...(4:129)" which clearly nullifies the excuse that He gave them to practice polygamy. Is this a contradiction then? Absolutely not!. It clearly proves that when Allah Almighty allowed polygamy, He only allowed it because we (the Muslims) had an emergency; we lost almost half of our men if not even more. When Islam later became much stronger and Muslims defeated the infidels in the continues battles that were forced upon them (the Muslims), Allah Almighty nullified the excuse that he gave to men to practice polygamy, which would then lead to prohibiting polygamy altogether.
The way I read Noble Verse 4:3 is as follows:
Allah Almighty ordered us to take care of the Orphans in our Islamic society (Noble Verses 2:177, 2:215, 2:220 and much more). He then commands us that if we fear that we will not be able to provide enough support for the too much Orphans in our society (especially after the battle of Uhud where more than half of the Muslim men were lost), then marry up to four of them to provide a social balance between men and women. But if a person feels that he can't handle multiple women, then one is just fine.
That's really all there is to it. Please read the Noble Verse again and compare it to my brief explanation above:
"If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. (The Noble Quran, 4:3)"
Why didn't Allah Almighty then directly prohibit polygamy?
Because Islam is the most straight forward religion, and because Islam is truly a religion for all times and all places that doesn't need to be modified as some of the other religions in the world do (including Christianity). Allah Almighty left the issue of polygamy open for Muslims in case Muslims face dilemmas in the future like the ones we faced during Islam's weak times by losing too many men. In cases like this, Muslim scholars should look into allowing polygamy. But until then, polygamy should be completely prohibited by the Muslim scholars according to the commands of Allah Almighty.
To see polygamy in the Bible where a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry, see Exodus 21:10 in the Bible. Please note that King David in the Bible had six wives and numerous concubines according to 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3. King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines according to1 Kings 11:3. Also, Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines according to 2 Chronicles 11:21.
Please visit: Polygamy in both the Old and New Testaments in the Bible. Jesus himself in the New Testament allowed Polygamy.
Why then did Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him practice polygamy?
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him can be treated as an exceptional case. The Noble Verses that I presented above clearly talked about men and women in general. They apply to all men and all women. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was a Messenger of GOD (filled with sympathy and mercy to people) and a leader for all Muslims. He didn't practice polygamy for the sake of sexual pleasure at all. Most of his wives were either widows (older than him in age too) or divorced women (also most of them were either older or same age). Only one of his wives was a virgin, and he only married her because her father was his best friend. He wanted to strengthen that relationship. And it was her father who offered her to our Prophet peace be upon him anyway.
If our beloved Prophet peace be upon him really seeked sexual pleasure, then he would've married young virgins from the Muslims. Back then, people loved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him so much, that they would literally do anything for him. Certainly fathers would've given him their young virgin daughters if he wanted to. Many people offered him their young virgin bosomed daughters anyway to raise their families' honor, but our Prophet never seeked that sexual privilege in life.
Because Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was a smart political leader and a wonderful humble merciful true Messenger of Allah Almighty, he chose to marry the weak from his people to encourage the Muslim men to do the same; to create a balance in the Muslim society. Again, another emergency case that existed during Islam's weak times that forced the Muslims (including Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him) to practice polygamy.
Can anyone be absolutely fair?
No one on this earth including Muhammad peace be upon him can be absolutely fair. Our Prophet peace be upon him used to pray in one of his prayers to Allah Almighty by saying in Arabic "Allah humma innaka taalamu be anni aadiloo bima astatee', wa lakinnee la aadiloo bima la astatee'," which means in English "Dear Allah, you are well aware that I try to be just with all I can, but I can't be just with what I can't." This prayer means that our Prophet always tried to be fair as much as possible, but he couldn't always do that.
One time, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said this prayer, because he used to love his wife Aisha (who was the youngest of his wives) the most, and he always feared that he would not be fair to the rest of his wives. Muhammad peace be upon him recognized that he was only a human being, and he can not be fair especially in his feelings at all time.
This clearly proves that Islam highly discourages the marriage of multiple wives for (1) Because no one can be fair; (2) polygamy is only allowed when the male species is endangered in a society; and (3) The Noble Verse 4:3 orders us to marry only one wife if we feel that we will not be fair.
The Noble Verse that I presented above also clearly proves that no one can be absolutely fair; "Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women, even if it is your ardent desire: But turn not away (from a woman) altogether, so as to leave her (as it were) hanging (in the air). If ye come to a friendly understanding, and practise self-restraint, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 4:129)"
Too much illiterate and starving kids damage the society and Islam:
Today in some of the poor Muslim countries, some poor men still practice polygamy. What benefit would it really serve the society and Islam for a person to bring more illiterate and starving kids into this world?
I honestly believe that practicing polygamy among the poor and starving is not allowed in Islam. Allah Almighty will hold accountable every man who practices polygamy. Poor men practicing polygamy don't provide fairness to the newly born kids and to the economically crippled society, and certainly not to their wives either.
If people practice polygamy without being thoughtful to others, then I am certain that Allah Almighty will take that negatively toward them, because Allah Almighty clearly demanded that we be fair, and think thoroughly before having multiple wives. He clearly encouraged just having one wife.
What if the person is rich and can afford polygamy?
I think it would be ok, but the man would still be taking a very high risk in displeasing GOD Almighty for anything that goes wrong in the marriages and the damages that it would cost the wives and the kids. If his kids will not be a burden on the society, and he makes sure that his wives are all treated well and equally as much as he can, even though he will never be perfectly just, then he might be ok.
Brining well educated kids into a Muslim society definitely helps. But if a rich guy practices polygamy the way some of the oil rich Gulf-Arab multi billionaires practice it; by marrying and divorcing on Thursdays which ensures that he never exceeds four women, and at the same time he always experiences new sexual pleasure with a new woman every week, then believe me Allah Almighty will damn him really bad in the Day of Judgment, because this is not the spiritual point from allowing polygamy in the Noble Quran!
I think practicing polygamy among those who can afford it really depends on the individual case. If the man's wife strongly opposes to polygamy to a point that she would seek a divorce, then obviously he can never satisfy her, and most probably can never be fair enough with her because he would be always fighting and arguing with her, where it may not be the case with the other wife. So destroying a marital life and damaging the kids for a personal reason is really not fair by itself, unless of course the wife is unbearable and the man and wife don't want the divorce, which in this case it would be a great idea for the man to have another wife.
Also, some Muslim women don't mind polygamy. And yes, some of them even seek wives for their husbands. If this is the case, then polygamy in this case would not be a problem, provide that the man can financially afford it and can provide a good quality life for all of his wives, and most importantly, can provide a good quality of education to his children.
As I said above, Allah Almighty clearly revealed Noble Verse 4:3 for the protection of the Orphans and to solve a major social imbalance between men and women. The Noble Verse never really came for man's pleasure, nor did it come for general purposes like in the Bible where men can practice polygamy for just about any reason.
So men in Islam are really taking risks when they practice polygamy for personal reasons only, because they will be held accountable for everything that goes wrong in the multiple marriages, and for any martial dissolutions that will ultimately hurt the kids the most.
Conclusion:
Islam does not allow marriage of multiple wives for males' sexual privileges and desires as Anti-Islamics claim. A normal man who makes enough money to keep him surviving in life can not provide a fair quality of life to all his wives, which means that he must not be allowed to marry multiple wives because he will only make his society worse.
Noble Verse 4:3 came to solve social problems. Unfortunately today, some Muslims intensify the Muslim's social problems in the Islamic poor countries by marrying multiple wives and bringing more and more illiterate and poor kids into the society which on the long run will only keep their entire society below the level of poverty. Therefore, Noble Verse 4:3 doesn't allow polygamy just for anyone or any reason and Noble Verse 4:129 certainly nullifies the excuse Allah Almighty gave to Muslim men to practice polygamy. Therefore, unless we have social or personal dilemmas where too many Muslim men were lost, or there is problems with the wife toward her husband, then polygamy should not be allowed nor justified in my Islamic view.
And Allah Almighty knows best, and may He forgive me if I made any mistakes in this article
i am not wrong to state the purpose of polygamy how did you work that out i'm not going to make up an islamic definition for polygamy now am i am stating facts |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:05 PM
| i disagree with u becuz u are not correct! |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 6:05 PM
| i disagree with u becuz u are not correct! |
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nads786
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:48 PM
| prove it before making allegations |
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nads786
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:48 PM
| prove it before making allegations |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:12 PM
you said….. Noble Verse 4:3 "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one.
why donot you join the verse 4:2 as well which start with ‘give the orphans their property’ what is that propery.
according to the verses if the widow is without children (orphans- centre of the issue) then the widow has no such commandment i.e. leave alone?
you said….. The Muslim men before that battle were approximately 700. They became only 400 after the battle. This loss had left so many Muslim women (1) Widows, and (2) Not able to get married if they were single.
there is no such explantion of the vers. u are wrong
you said….. When Islam later became much stronger and Muslims defeated the infidels in the continues battles that were forced upon them (the Muslims), Allah Almighty nullified the excuse that he gave to men to practice polygamy, which would then lead to prohibiting polygamy altogether.
in other words, do you want to say like ‘zakat system must be abolished if not needed at some time’?
how a muslim gives such a selfish and nonsense islamic education to the others!! |
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Bhavittre
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:26 PM
you said……. All quotes used from the Quran.
how many muslims are interested in the religion whom you are confdently addressing. Men even favourng ur thoughts donot pay any heed practically to these issues. So forget this world and wait for the heaven with the gardens with the canals of milk and honey. |
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nads786
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:55 PM
hello incase you havent noticed what i posted above wasnt from me it was an ARTICLE I FOUND not my own words
so you cannot judge me or my beliefs in reference to an article i shared and the comment about forgetting this world well heaven is only attained by working hard and staying pious in this world
and please i am really getting sick of this childish game now grow up and then come back to debate intellectually with me there are many things in life that we dont agree with but fighting is not the solution for this |
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oosman
USA
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Posted - Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:52 AM
Bhavit,
You are such a dingbat! You do not even understand the verse you talk of!
You said: "according to the verses if the widow is without children (orphans- centre of the issue) then the widow has no such commandment i.e. leave alone?"
You are totally confused about the verse, it never talks of widows in the first place. It is saying to treat orphans properly, to give them their property (i.e. the guardian should give them their property and not keep it for himself), and to marry the ORPHAN, not the mother of the orphan! |
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