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hkhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, August 19, 2005  -  9:08 AM Reply with quote
assalamu alaykum (peace) and chill out dear gals

i'm pleased that you all are engaged in positive discussion and trying to learn from eachother

actually these forums hv been designed in such a way that everyone has a liberty to say wat they think or criticize as long as it is backed with logic n reason. so keep up and try to take the best out of this.
usmani790

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, August 19, 2005  -  12:22 PM Reply with quote
Quote:Hmmm...I really wonder why you're still here?


Let her be here

Once a patient went for an operation for taking out the 100 nails, which some how he had inside his body. When doctor took out 99 nails and want to proceed for the last one. The patient told doctor not to take out the last nail.

Doctor surprises and asks him, why you want to keep one nail inside yours body?

I want to feel the taste of this nail and want to enjoy it.

So let her be around , and try to enjoy.

The place where you will never heard any kind of nonsense is only Jinnah.
xxbasxx

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, August 20, 2005  -  6:13 PM Reply with quote
quote:


why on earth would i like islam. The reason why i am here, is to critise it. May the lord have mercy on you all.





well then go away... you're supposed to be here to LEARN about Islam in a positive and safe environment. if you want to critisize it, go do it somewhere else. infront of people who are willing to allow you to critisize it in the rude manner that you are doing now. not in front of people who love their faith and refuse to allow the ignorant to attempt to put it to shame like this.

May the Lord have mercy on YOU. May He guide you aright and grant you wisdom to know when it is best to hold your tongue.

Wassalam
xxbasxx

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, August 20, 2005  -  6:16 PM Reply with quote

yes, usmani, she can stay. im hoping that her ignorance will leave...

anyway! no one's told me whether the Muslim Girl's Guide to Dealing with Dudes helped them or not...

Wassalam .xXx. Basmah .xXx.
perv1

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, August 20, 2005  -  9:59 PM Reply with quote
frankly i don't care about anything about Islam and i no nothing about the prophet.I never went to scripture at school and i will never want to learn cause it is all a load of rubbish, if you ask me.

Stupidity comes in many forms. One of the worst is to pass judgement on something which you yourself confess to be ignorant of. I think I can understand why you dont want learn. It must be very difficult to fit many facts into a very limited grey matter( I am making an assumption that you know where you grey matter is).
You are a classic example of the quote'If you think education is expensive try ignorance'


YOU can all go to hell and burn!!!

Very christian like behaviour?


why on earth would i like islam. The reason why i am here, is to critise it. May the lord have mercy on you all.


Thank god. I would be really concerned if ignorant bigots were attracted to Islam
Loveall

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, August 22, 2005  -  8:22 PM Reply with quote
CURSED COWS HAVE SHORT HORNS
(Khuda Gangey Ko Nakhun Na Dey)

WHERE IS THE RULE TO DELETE THE OPPOSING VIEWS???

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QUOTE: - and wish for him to not give us his opinion in this area of discussion ever again please. an argument has sparked and i had to delete two posts and would rather that i never have to do that again.

After giving the statement, have you not still realised the folly of yours? Have you any right to pass such comments to ask someone not to give one’s views? Mind that YOU “XXBASXX” ARE NOT, NOT AND NOT THE ONLY ONE TO READ here, many more are as well. Keep it write somewhere so that you must not forget.

QUOTE: - There is a Request. Plz Delete All other POST too that are Addressing Mr "loveall" OR has His name in their Post. It means that Just leave the FIRST Post & the LAST post only & Delete ALL other POSTs present HERE.

If you “Ibrahim” could delete your own post, still there, why are you giving the dictation for that? Do you consider all others also kids?

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I have written to the Dean Shehzad Saleem Sahib for such manoeuvres done by you. If he only says himself (NOT SOMEONE ELSE) to me, I will stop writing otherwise you “XXBASXX” and you “IBRAHIM” must refrain well from your polarized attitudes. I put your stupidities and the nonsense decisions into a HUGE…. dustbin. I have the posts saved, will do post again as soon as you delete them. Mind it very well.

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THE POSTS ARE HERE AGAIN.

ONLY “Halwa” is not here which you want in these forums.

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POST, No.1

Children must have the good diet, play and study if they want to be something to help or serve the humanity otherwise the society and competition will effectively ignore the super talents falling prey to the bigotry at this age.

This is my brotherly advice otherwise go ahead to see the changes of the climate and its adverse effects at the high altitude.

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POST, No.2

QUOTE 1: - (Mail of the unknown author): Remember that you're always being watched! Would you act all giggly and stupid WITH BOYS if your mum could see you?

QUOTE 2: - (Mail of the unknown author): It also means that you are uninterested in WHAT THEY DO AS WELL.

QUOTE 3: - (Mail of the unknown author): YOU HAVE NO SECRETS! Not because Big Brother (whoever that is…) is watching you, but because every single thing you ever did will become public domain on the Day of Judgment, and you'll be brought to trial to defend what you did. Just don't do anything that you wouldn't want your parents, your bros and sisters, your teachers, your friends, the neighbours and the whole world to know about, ok?

I wrote in response to thinking of the author revealed in the above quotes and the similar others of the mail (of the unknown author??)- Original post of this forum otherwise I do not know the point of view of the moderator followed by the Labbaikism of Mr. “Ibrahim”.

Have you both read the whole mail and could know the point of view of the author (?)? Whatever her style of the writing is, could anybody know what message she wants to convey to the others? Doesn’t she want to do every thing everywhere whatever likes, without intervention of the others even the parents and considering her all wise in the all aspects? For example she wants not only to ring and talk (freely) with her boy friends but even make the company and spend time with them with full liberty without knowing its after effects but only God is seeing (No doubt)? Being a human being, how can she maintain and guarantee all the good (un-objectionable) what God will be seeing and hearing? God will punish or reward on the day of Judgement but what answer she wants to give to all those around her? Similarly, Is it right or un-objectionable if some man visits the home of a widow from time to time to give her charities etc? Isn’t author of the mail trying to make others fool too?

Obviously, here, the aim of the mail of the unknown author is the same thinking of the moderator, which she wants to promote and I put a piece of advice which may help somewhere in the life.

Remember, my advice is NOT ONLY FOR THE TEENAGER but also for ALL THOSE WHO PAY HEED.

For the teenagers such restrictions are not objectionable so far as our eastern culture is concerned otherwise the mild bigotry may be enough for them to see the catastrophic consequences even in the absence of any sin. Does anybody know those who are punished in this world are not always accused? So any sort of excess of confidence and expectations in this world must never be made otherwise go ahead to see the changes of the climate and its untoward effects at the high altitude.

QUOTE: - Here is another PROOF that your posts are MOSTLY irrelavent to the ONGOING topics.

I ask you Mr. “Ibrahim”, a question. Couldn’t you find please anything in the mail to which I responded like that or you just saw the moderator’s response and took it as a casting vote?

QUOTE: - Plz Keep in mind that Your Posts are Very GOOD.

Thank you very much for the encouragement.

QUOTE: - shabaash BAS,

Aren’t you Mr. “Ibrahim”, giving shabaash, unintentionally, to promote thinking of the author of the mail?

QUOTE: - U r a v KIND moderator.

I already know not only the kindness but the KIDness too.

QUOTE: - Otherwise u MAY have DELETED an irrelavent POST.

You must know; if someone can delete any post the other one can easily post it again and tell me who seems to be more helpful, one who posts or one who deletes? By saying my post irrelevant, if you both are trying to conceal stupid message of the mail why not delete that rather than to give such statements loaded heavily perhaps with the biased attitude.

In the end as you “Ibrahim”, asked me about my posts, could I ask you about your post, is related to the topic or not when the moderator has already pointed out her point of view?

QUOTE: - thank you for the advice brother but how is it relavent to the topic?

Most welcome for appreciating the advice. To see the relevancy please read again not have the bird’s eye view of the original post of this forum as well as this post of mine. Let me know, I am here, if there is some problem to understand.

MORAL: - Cursed cows have short horns (Khuda Gangey Ko Nakhun Na Dey)

NOTE: Never expect to have the answer that you have already forged in your mind.

Wassalam with the sayings of God:

· You who believe! Surely from among your WIVES and your CHILDREN there is an enemy to you; therefore BEWARE OF THEM. (64: 14).

· And they (believes and do good deeds) who say: O our Lord! Grant us in our wives and our children the joy of our eyes, and MAKE US GUIDES to those who guard (against evil) (25: 74).

Loveall

Edited by: Loveall on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:56 AM
Abinzain

SAUDI ARABIA
Posted - Thursday, August 25, 2005  -  8:35 PM Reply with quote
Salam wa alaikom

The girls who want to have the open friendship with the boys, must know first; whether the boys are willing, with such girls, to adapt their friendship or not.

The girl, who says in her post that she has even slept with his boy friend, must tell this story, on her arrival at home, to his parents, brothers or the husband and see the consequences.

If such girls aren’t controlled by their parents and the brothers, after marriage their husbands kick them out without any delay. Don’t they know divorce and four marriages for men are Halal in Islam?

I believe; with the passage of time, as the age advances, every slap of the year corrects automatically all the abnormalities of the mind.

Sincerely,
Abinzain
Puppy

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, August 27, 2005  -  3:38 PM Reply with quote
Salam!

The girl, who says in her post that she has even slept with his boy friend, must tell this story, on her arrival at home, to his parents, brothers or the husband and see the consequences.
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Yah! On arrival at home, there is expectation of any peace only if the family doesn’t belong to that of the prostitutes.
tweety

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Monday, August 29, 2005  -  3:26 PM Reply with quote
quote:

well done proud_Christian………….
Shit.......Perv 1 and all others.....

Bhavittre
- the punishment for hypocrites is worse than any other punishment in hell
sort out ur mental issues b4 u reply on other ppls' forums dude
hw old are all thse ppl ??!?! YUNG MINDS- FOR 9-15 YR OLDS
Sweet16

USA
Posted - Monday, August 29, 2005  -  8:01 PM Reply with quote
Asalaam Alaikum.
I also found the article very informative and it did change my perspective from a secular one to an Islamic one, Alhumdulillah. As living in America I always thought the people who take out something else from a girl and boys relationship are narrow-minded. However, when I learned from the wisdom of Islam, I understood that one small talk, few laughters could lead to many disasters. We must try to control our nafs and avoid fitnah (temptation) and this is a challenge we young people must go through the most. As we are literally "young minds" therefore the shaitaan is trying to take control of it each split-second it gets. So the language of that article and the layout was easy to understand and now let's hope all Muslim gals maintain haya (modesty) and apply the teachings Insh'Allah.
Fi'Aman'Allah all.
Loveall

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, August 30, 2005  -  1:17 AM Reply with quote
QUOTE: - We must try to control our nafs and avoid fitnah (temptation) and this is a challenge we young people must go through the most.

Yes, the original post of the forum is full of the FITNA.
Bhavittre

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, August 31, 2005  -  9:00 PM Reply with quote
you said………the punishment for hypocrites is worse than any other punishment in hell

prove first hell where the hypocrites will be dumped and the paradise for whivh the kafirs like u are seeing the dreams. remember if there is any paradise not for u ppls. you shud know that after death there is nothing except the insects eating and doing poop on ur corpse in the grave.

you said………sort out ur mental issues b4 u reply

what about ur mental issues and others issues….. or the same words are bounced back to u.

you said……… hw old are all thse ppl YUNG MINDS- FOR 9-15 YR OLDS

is this age group autorised in any law of the world to opine on any issue?



what is ur opinion about proud_christian? has she/he also mental issues…….. hypocricy etc……….?

Edited by: xxbasxx on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:46 PM
xxbasxx

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Wednesday, August 31, 2005  -  9:51 PM Reply with quote

kaafir is not the correct word used to describe a Muslim who has taken the Shahaada.


kaafir isnt even the right word to describe a non believer. there are no more kaafirs in the world as there are no more Prophets in the world.


the definition of a kaafir is someone who has HEARD about Islam and KNOWS what it is and KNOWS what they have to believe in to become a Muslim but still refuses to believe in the one-ness (sp?) of Allah and in the Prophet Muhammad (saw)


dont use the word Kaafir unless you know what it means, please

same for every other word in the dictionary

thank you

Wassalam
*and watch your language*

.xXx. Basmah
Bhavittre

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, September 3, 2005  -  1:36 AM Reply with quote
xxbass
if u are advising not to say someone kafir……….why not advising not to say someone hypocrites -said above? why are u not so unbiased. u know the biased ppls hve no respect?
xxbasxx

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, September 3, 2005  -  3:27 PM Reply with quote
Salamz

okay, we should not call anyone kafirs OR hypocrites

khush?

.xXx. Basmah
Imaan84

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, September 3, 2005  -  8:06 PM Reply with quote
to xxbasxx
please...these ppl wont come to real path...coz they are doomed and cursed by God Himself, so just blick them somehow...i dont want their unpure thots over here...though christianity n jewism also teach abt good things..i wonder which religion they belong to...may be their religion teaches them this..or may its their grooming...just let them be...close da topic...they are ignorants...coz thistopic is for MUSLIM GIRLS...and look...kon kon free ho raha hai

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