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khargoshjr
UNITED KINGDOM
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 Topic initiated on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 9:49 PM 
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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 Posted - Monday, November 28, 2005 - 4:29 PM 
Salamz
bullying is something disgusting that needs to be stopped. if you've ever had experience with it and would like to share, do it right here ^_^
if you ARE suffering from bullying, maybe one of us could help - as Khargosh Jr said, dont suffer in silence
i looked at all the links - they're really good and are in a language kids can understand ^_^
Wassalam
.xXx.
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Nauman
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, November 28, 2005 - 4:55 PM
As-Salamu Alaikum khargoshjr & xxbasxx,
It is very cheap to bull someone indeed!
Then what about "Stop Bullying!" at home. What if the bully is the Bull you have. Should we slaughter and eat it? I need an advice right now. I cannot wait till Eid-Ul-Adah; I might be the one not alive till then.
What a Vicious Merciless Bull!
No Offense Please.
Edited by: nauman on Monday, November 28, 2005 4:58 PM |
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Thameena
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, November 28, 2005 - 6:47 PM
Assalamualaikum,
The alternative is for parents to Home
Educate their children instead of
sending them to school. Thousands are
already home educating in Britain.
If your child is at school, parents
(in UK) only have to de-register their
child (recorded del. letter will do)
and you do NOT have to inform either
the LEA or the DFES, unless they contact you.
Your child does not have to follow a
school type curriculum or have LEA
visits. It is recommended that you
don't. If the LEA are causing you
concern then you can contact
archrights@arch-ed.org who will
provide more information where
you can get help.
Lots of support and advice is available.
For more information contact:
http://www.home-education.org.uk/
http://www.he-special.org.uk/
http://www.arch-ed.org/ |
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Thursday, December 1, 2005 - 10:16 PM
Salamz all ^_^
but that's the thing you do in extreme cases, when nothing else works -if you've talked to the teachers and the kids dont stop bullying them and, because of certain reasons, expelling the bullies is not possible, THEN the child should start being home educated.
but home education has its disadvantages - the child may possibly lose touch with those outside his/her home. They may not learn how to deal with society and they may get to used to a home environment.
i feel kids should toughen up a bit XD they should stand up for themselves. short of becoming a bully, they should learn how to deal with the other mean kids. and since im not a parent i dont know what to say here.
well anyway bullying is wrong and i hope our young Muslim generation knows this and doesnt bully other kids ^_^
as Muslims we should be peaceful like our Prophet Muhammad (saw) and behave in the way Allah wants us to - that means not hurting other people, no matter what age you are.
bullying doesnt just happen to young kids, it happens to people my age too. this is totally awful and i resent humanity for not being able to ditch their bad habits of not co operating with each other - heck, even our world leaders look like bullies : picking on smaller people.
but if we wipe the problem out one generation at a time we'll hopefully stop bullying going all the way to our world leaders - we just need to think up of constructive ways of doing this.
Wassalam
.xXx.
Basmah
.xXx.
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Thameena
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Friday, December 2, 2005 - 2:46 AM
"Verily, I have been sent to perfect morals"
Salams,
As a moderator, I think it is important
for you to be impartial and not post
opinions of biased or prejudice nature.
Your posts seem to come across as being
very hostile towards parents choosing
to home educate their children and I
totally disagree with your opinions.
As a parent I am entitled to make my
own choice about my children's
education and so is everyone else. No
one should put pressure on anyone
that 'they must' put their kids in
school or only home educate in 'extreme
cases'. It is none of your business to
tell me how to raise my children.
I think you know nothing about home
education, social exclusion and
inclusion. I doubt if you have read
any books or papers written by
education professors & prominant
teachers such as John Holt, John Taylor
Gattor, Roland Meighan, Hamza Yusuf or
others.
I doubt if you have experienced home
educating your children or seen others
do it!
The honest fact is, research has proven
it to be far more successful that
teaching in schools. It is also totally
in accordance to our natural fitra and
Islamic teachings where it is the
parents responsibility on educating
their child (and not anyone elses).
There is far less bullying and parents
like us do not agree with people who
think our children should be sent to
into an enclosed building where they
are continually abused and mistreated
in such a way that effects their lives
adversely. In islam no one has to stand
up to such abuse.
As a home educator my children have had
several outings, field trips and social
activities which other school child
haven't ever experienced. There is far
less bullying because home educators
are very careful in bringing up their
children with good morals & values,
something that even our prophet pbuh is
said to have recommended:
"The best gift from a father to his
child is education and upbringing."
(Tirmidhi, authority of Said ibn Al As)
“I have been sent only for the purpose
of perfecting good morals.” (Muwatta)
I don't think you have read through the
history of schools or how they came
about and they are linked to the
industrial revolution. I doubt if you
understand how detrimental schools are
to our children's learning! In reality
schools are a prison for young
children who spend 37 odd hours away
from their families every week.
To us, it is anathemia!
Wasalam,
Thameena
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education of Muslim Children -
Challenges and Opportunities
http://www.islamfortoday.com/syed07.htm
Dr. Ibrahim B. Syed, Ph.D analyzes the
advantages and disadvantages of Public,
Parochial, Private non-parochial,
Islamic, Virtual Islamic, or Home
Schools in the United States
"Each one of you is a caretaker (ra'iy)
and is responsible for those under his
care." (Reported by al-Bukhari and
Muslim.)
“Man is inclined to get influenced by
his friend's manners, so one must be
careful in choosing friends.”
(Reported by Abu Dawud & At-Tirmidhi)
“Whoever has a daughter, tutors her on
good morals, educates her well and
feeds her properly; she will be a
rotection for him from Hell-Fire.”
Islam Online
What do we mean by good education? The
good education means the physical,
mental and moral preparation of the
child so he can become a good
individual in the good society. |
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Friday, December 2, 2005 - 6:28 PM
Salamz ^_^
quote:
It is none of your business to
tell me how to raise my children.
im not trying to tell you how to raise your children, i didnt even know your kids were home educated.
quote:
Your posts seem to come across as being
very hostile towards parents choosing
to home educate their children and I
totally disagree with your opinions.
i was simply stating my ignorant opinion, i admit i lack extensive knowledge on the topic and i had no idea that i was coming across in a hostile manner *sorry!*
quote:
I doubt if you have experienced home
educating your children or seen others
do it!
im fifteen - i dont have any children -and, yes, ive seen home education take place *the kids were really happy ^_^*
quote:
In reality
schools are a prison for young
children who spend 37 odd hours away
from their families every week.
erm i respect that you feel this way but as a child who goes to school i disagree. if i spent my entire life with my family i think id go crazy... no offence ^_^ thats just my opinion - the summer holidays tend to drive me insane.
school's not just a place you go to to study. its also a place where you meet different personalities *not during lessons, during your lunch breaks*. i know that being educated inside a school building is going to be an experience, something that builds up my memories so i can look back on them when im old.
i feel that, if i was home educated, id be bound to the same place forever - regardless of how many field trips i went on.
this is my opinion, and yours is your opinion, im not trying to teach you how to teach your children, im only offering the information IV gathered.
as a moderator, im allowed to have opinions - if you feel they are biased, please do let me know, but please also remember that i never intend them to come across that way.
im sorry if i insulted you in my above post but thats the way it goes ^_^ and i have apologised for it so theres not much more i can do.
.xXx.
Wassalam
.xXx.
oh, and i forgot to mention, i am in no way against home education. if thats the way you want to bring up your children then thats awesome, you're making decisions as a parent that you feel are better for your child. i am PRO home school-ed but im also pro school-building school ed, the subject never really intrigued me much its nothing ive been forced to think about. my opinions were formed when we debated it in english 2 - 3 years ago 
Edited by: xxbasxx on Friday, December 02, 2005 6:37 PM |
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Thameena
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Sunday, December 4, 2005 - 11:44 AM
Salams,
Hey, don't appologise! I should be apologising
for having a discussion with a 15yr old
school girl. I can see from your experience
how well you are conditioned into the system!
See also Bullying in Schools
Oh, I won't be here to discuss further as
I have arranged activities for my children,
visits from their friends, their sports activities,
swimming, jujitsu, gymnastics, etc..
Life is always so busy!
Wasalam,
Thameena
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hkhan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Saturday, December 10, 2005 - 1:07 PM
but i think wisdom is not bound by age;
rather as someone rightly said that
"wisdom is the refinding of innocence"
we are proud of our young minds tryng to understand and proclaim the Right as insh'Allah this is the way fwd for muslim ummah for the betterment of the whole humanity; not only muslims. if we look into the future i.e. 5 to 10 yrs and beyond.
and similarly evil is not bound by age. it was heart breaking to see the news on bbc during the anti bullying week about bullying of the royal naval recruits by their seniors who forced these recruits to do boxing with eachother in the nude; one of the recruits who resisted was beaten to unconciousness by a senior. someone managed to secretly catch all this on tape and the case was then investigated.
this shows the importance of God-awareness and moral values at every stage of life.
Wassalam.
Edited by: xxbasxx on Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:30 PM |
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Fizz1
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Tuesday, January 3, 2006 - 8:01 PM
Salam
some times a bully bullys someone
because they get treated badly at
home or if they are jealuos of another kid. A child should be able to defend there self without moving schools so to stop bullying i belive confidence is needed. |
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 11:12 PM
Salamz ^_^
Masha'Allah, fizz1, very true statement ^_^ i completely agree with you.
if your theory is true (which it definetly is) then we need to get rid of the true root of the problem. we can never stop a child being jealous but we CAN stop a child being treated badly at home.
before bullying can be tackled, we should first fix the problems that are becoming more and more frequent, and more and more brutal, at home. the problem isnt really the kids...its the parents, the home life, the lack of civilization (sp??) at home.
if we want to get rid of bullying then we need to get rid of bad parenting. its obvious why it happens: parents clearly need to straighten out their priorities.
oh im too tired. ill finish this lecture tomorrow Insha'Allah.
pray for me!! i have a physics test on friday and a maths test TOMORROW.
Wassalam .xXx. *sniff* |
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Fizz1
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 7:55 PM
aoa , Basmah the parents wont admite if they are wrong parents or not! So we need to ask the child the question not the parent
the only thing the parent would reply is my child is cleaver but they dont understand the childs feelings or if it is getting bullied , or if it is a bully!!!!! |
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Fizz1
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 7:58 PM
If your getting bullied dont be sceard
you can tell someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Friday, January 27, 2006 - 4:15 PM
Salamz ^_^
yes thats certainly true. have you ever (or has your sister ever) read that book by erm Dan Something? its called...er... 'A Boy Called It'. its about child abuse and its completely irrelevant but it totally shows how much parents dont want other people to know that they abuse their child.
anyway, if you're going to use your child as a punchbag, then dont think there wont be any consequences. child abuse and bullying are definetly two symptoms of the same disease and need to be cured. our society has been built up on lies and...stuff.
im tired again and i cant be buggered.
bullying is wrong
dont blame kids
dont blame parents
blame misguided ancestors.
a tree starts at the roots, not from the stem
.xXx. Wassalam |
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Fizz1
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Friday, January 27, 2006 - 8:31 PM
| there is a big bully here called basma!!!! |
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, January 30, 2006 - 3:45 PM
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