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hkhan
UNITED KINGDOM
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 Topic initiated on Sunday, April 3, 2005 - 3:10 PM 
on Pope's sad demise
salam (peace)
Whilst I was thinking of posting something regarding Easter as we still have Easter break here, I got this heart breaking news of the Pope John Paul II's sad demise
http://channels.aolsvc.co.uk/news/article.adp?id=20050403075109990008
inna lillah...(we all belong to God and shall return to Him)
May God bless his soul. amen
Doubtlessly he was a national hero fighting all his life against atheism and he also initiated the interfaith dialogue among the believers of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
Edited by: hkhan on Saturday, April 09, 2005 10:49 AM |
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nadya
USA
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Posted - Sunday, April 3, 2005 - 11:23 PM 
Pope touches hearts among Muslims
By Jon Leyne
BBC News, Amman
Pope John Paul is also being mourned in the Muslim world.
Amongst those offering condolences are President Mohammad Khatami of Iran, a country that is 99% Muslim, and one of the senior imams in Lebanon, Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah.
In the Arab and the Muslim world, the Pope has been remembered above all for his support for the rights of Palestinians.
His opposition to the war in Iraq also won him widespread support.
But Pope John Paul is also praised for his work to promote dialogue between the different faiths.
He was the first Pope to pay an official visit to a mosque.
In the year 2000, the Pope entered a mosque in the Syrian capital, Damascus, which also contains the tomb of John the Baptist, the Christian saint.
A leading cleric in Malaysia said he hoped Pope John Paul's successor would follow in his footsteps to increase understanding between Muslims and Christians.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/4406397.stm
Published: 2005/04/03 13:34:53 GMT
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xxbasxx
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Tuesday, April 5, 2005 - 6:20 PM
This just goes to show that POPE is a title, but it can't confirm the person behind it ^_^.
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Hischam khan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 2:06 AM
I know only good of him. He worked for peace and understanding between people of different faiths, cultures and traditions. He was for love, kindness and justice. When wronged, he forgave, and this; even when the wrong almost killed him. He would speak his mind, even when it contradicted “modern thought”. When he expressed himself, he made a difference and was heard. His humbleness really showed when he would prostrate and kiss the floor upon arrival in a country. People who met him testify that he was a genuine person. Upon his departure, humanity felt like it lost something special.
May he rest in peace. |
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mfonerr
TURKEY
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Posted - Saturday, April 9, 2005 - 3:55 PM
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim
The evaluation of Pope John Paul depends on our Islamic resources which are Qur'an, Hadeth, Ijma and Qıyas.In this framework we should be very careful when we talk about anybody.If this is an important person like Pope it increases its importance.If we forgot the history and today the result will get worse than today's Islamic World and the rest.The Catholics and consequently the Pope did not believe in God and His Messenger Muhammad (pubh) which is our creed. So forgetting of what had been done and are being done by christians against the world cannot be ignored like Jewish community.So, please be careful and search what has been said to deaths by our Prophet, ulama, scholar.To say rahimallah is only for muslims not non muslims or christians! |
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hkhan
UNITED KINGDOM
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 Posted - Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:14 PM
salam( peace) 
thanks dear mfonerr for your post
good that you brought up this point as many of our other members/guests may hv this query
however we need to realize that not only the beloved Muhammad PBUH has sent blessings and peace on nonmuslims including people of book but even the Qura'n appreciates those people of book who fear God and remember Him in the hours of night with tears wetting their faces.
i wud strongly recommend our readers to browse through the
Islam and Non-Muslims: A New Perspective
http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/martitl2y2.html
as its hight time that we got rid of these crucial misunderstandings re: our relations with other faith communities
Whither International Relations?
Shehzad Saleem
Almost six months have passed since that fateful morning of September 11 when several thousand innocent civilians of the United States were mercilessly massacred by a team of suicide pilots. The ghastly incident landed like a bolt from the blue and left the world shell-shocked. This time it was not the ‘Japs’. A band of ‘aggrieved’ Muslims had gone on rampage. Besmeared with the blood of peaceful citizens, these pilots or the masterminds behind them could never have imagined the extent of the carnage they were ultimately able to pull off.
The affects produced by this incident are far reaching and have influenced almost every domain of life. One such domain is the sphere of international relations. Of particular mention in this regard, is the question of Islam’s relationship with other religions and polities of the world. This question assumes great significance when it is taken into account that the perpetrators of this terrorist activity have put forth religious arguments for the mass murder they committed.
In my opinion, when we look at the arguments presented by these diehards and at the general Muslim stance regarding Islam and its relationship with other religions of the world, we find that there is something desperately wrong with the Muslim approach.
As a student of Islam, I have tried to ascertain in my humble capacity what exactly is ‘that wrong’. In the following pages, my findings appear in the form of a research article that spans the whole of this journal. I would request the serious reader to critically and carefully go through this work and send me his/her observations. I would specifically ask activists engaged in interfaith-dialogue to spare some time for this article.
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Hischam khan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Monday, April 11, 2005 - 7:42 PM
Assalam-u-Alaikum mfonerr,
As I said; “I know only good of him”. Though his concept of God differs to ours, he did believe in God. The Pope has a different faith to our own, but wasn’t one to slander ours. Quite to the contrary, he was for peace between people of different faiths. He was for dialog. He had good things to say about our faith too. Why he did not become Muslim is something that is best known to God. All I can say is that from what I know of him, he was a good person. I am not aware of anything in Islam which prohibits me from expressing my honest opinion in all this. God will be the final judge; not me. I do not believe that all people from other faiths are bad and I could not say that they are all condemned to Hell. Such a thing very much depends on their intentions and whether they made best use of the capabilities God bestowed upon them. Their ultimate destination is in God’s knowledge and hands, this is clear.
The example of our Prophet (p) was to express condolences when a person died; even if he was of a different faith:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: A funeral procession passed in front of us and the Prophet stood up and we too stood up. We said, 'O Allah's Apostle! This is the funeral procession of a Jew." He said, "Whenever you see a funeral procession, you should stand up." – Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23, Number 398
Narrated 'Abdur Rahman bin Abi Laila: Sahl bin Hunaif and Qais bin Sad were sitting in the city of Al-Qadisiya. A funeral procession passed in front of them and they stood up. They were told that funeral procession was of one of the inhabitants of the land i.e. of a non-believer, under the protection of Muslims. They said, "A funeral procession passed in front of the Prophet and he stood up. When he was told that it was the coffin of a Jew, he said, "Is it not a living being (soul)?" – Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 399
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