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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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 Posted - Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 1:58 PM 
These hypocrites present the differences in matters relating to religion as an excuse for their behavior[13]. Tell them that] mankind was [initially] a single nation. Then [when differences started cropping up between people,] God raised prophets [among them] - as those giving glad tidings [to the believers] and as those giving warnings [to the rejecters] - and with them[14] God revealed His book containing the Truth, so that it may decide between people in all matters [relating to religion] in which they had started differing[15]. The people who were given the book were the very people who differed [in its teachings], even after clear signs [of the right path] had come to them, only because of their mutual hatred and enmity. Now, [with the revelation of the Qur'an] God has provided for the guidance of those who have believed [in it] to what is right in matters of differences. And God guides whom He wills [based upon His absolute knowledge, wisdom and justice][16], to a path that is straight. (213)al baqrah
According to Ghamidhi this verse of Qur'an defines the role of prophets and Divine SCriptures. prophets gave glad tidings and warnings whilst the Divine Scriptures continaed the guidance to delinate matters among people. |
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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 5:50 PM
| To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; 5;48 |
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aboosait
INDIA
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Posted - Friday, August 24, 2007 - 1:37 AM
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usmani790-PAKISTAN Posted - Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 4:58 PM.....Narrated As-Saib bin Yazid: In the life-time of the Prophet, Abu Bakr and Umar, the Adhan for the jumua prayer used to be pronounced when the Imam sat on the pulpit. But during the Caliphate of 'Uthman when the Muslims increased in number, a third Adhan at Az-Zaura' was added. Abu 'Abdullah said, "Az-Zaura' is a place in the market of Medina." (Sahih Bukhari Book #13, Hadith #35)
So there used to be two adhan in Jummah before Him and it was the third adhan which was added by Hazrat Utman (RA)
(I have underlined a sentence in your quote.)
Very strange indeed!
The Hadith you have quoted mentions the usual Adhaan after the Imaam takes his seat on the pulpit. It does not mention a second Adhaan but goes on to mention about a third Adhaan.
So how do you come to such a farfetched conclusion that "there used to be two adhan in Jummah before Him ..........." |
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usmani790
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Friday, August 24, 2007 - 1:04 PM
The word "Third" is good enough to conclude it.When it said third adhan was added, so its clearly shows that there were already two adhan were used to call in Jummah prayer before the third aghan were added.
Only thing is cofusing you is that the time of second adhan is not mentioned in the hadith |
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Dalmir
INDIA
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Posted - Sunday, September 2, 2007 - 1:12 PM
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So far as your post is concerned, how do you defend yourself?
I consider the second Adhaan to be a 'bi'dah' (an innovation)which must be avoided because the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam has said:"every newly introduced matter in Religion is a misguidance"
As I requested you couldn't defend youself. Couldn't you know about the defence of any writing? |
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aboosait
INDIA
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Posted - Sunday, September 2, 2007 - 4:00 PM
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..............so its clearly shows that there were already two adhan were used to call in Jummah prayer before the third aghan were added.......... the time of second adhan is not mentioned in the hadith
Brother Usmani,your conjecture cannot be taken as proof. Please produce proof. |
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usmani790
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Monday, September 3, 2007 - 4:26 PM
| If a hadith of sahih bukhari is not enough then only God can help you. |
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aboosait
INDIA
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Posted - Monday, September 24, 2007 - 4:10 AM
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If a hadith of sahih bukhari is not enough then only God can help you.
The following statement you have quoted is not present in that Hadith. You have added it.
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So there used to be two adhan in Jummah before Him and it was the third adhan which was added by Hazrat Utman (RA)
Please provide proof.
The hadith you have quoted states of the first Adhaan and a third Adhaan. My question is which is this second Adhaan you are talking of?
My other question to you was who added one Adhaan to be called out from the moque, when we know clearly that Uthman r.a. did not do it. He had only ordered an Adhaan to be pronounced in the marketplace. |
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