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CANADA
Posted - Sunday, October 3, 2004  -  1:29 AM Reply with quote
aslam o alaikum,
i,m new here.well!i started with hijaab with veil while in my collage.
firstof all because QURAN was send for all times andso it has to be practised in every age.Also,correct me if im wrong please---i know that we have been commanded to follow Prophet Muhammad(p.b.u.h) in every aspect.being a female should the Muslim females not look up to the respected and our beloved lives of wives of Prophet Muhammad(p.b.u.h).for female things,wont we be looking at the respected females.
With this concept in mind i veiled --which is just one of the aspect of Islam ---there are many others.
please clarify to me if this simple concept of mine is right or wrong.I believe it to be correct.
A simple question for those who say in Islam there is no hijab--what do you feel when you see females in hijab.
hatred?respect?unusual?dont be offended plz--just want to know your true feelings.
wasalam

Edited by: Ibrahim on Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:14 PM
ajmal

OMAN
Posted - Sunday, October 3, 2004  -  2:47 PM Reply with quote
Dear Brothers and Sisters, Assalamu alaikum,
Please find below a logical and comprehensive answer by one of the best orators of our time Dr. Zakir Naik to question on Hijab (a misconception of many non-muslims about muslims):

The status of women in Islam is often the target of attacks in the secular media. The ‘hijaab’ or the Islamic dress is cited by many as an example of the ‘subjugation’ of women under Islamic law. Before we analyze the reasoning behind the religiously mandated ‘hijaab’, let us first study the status of women in societies before the advent of Islam

1. In the past women were degraded and used as objects of lust
The following examples from history amply illustrate the fact that the status of women in earlier civilizations was very low to the extent that they were denied basic human dignity:
1. Babylonian Civilization:
The women were degraded and were denied all rights under the Babylonian law. If a man murdered a woman, instead of him being punished, his wife was put to death.
2. Greek Civilization:
Greek Civilization is considered the most glorious of all ancient civilizations. Under this very ‘glorious’ system, women were deprived of all rights and were looked down upon. In Greek mythology, an ‘imaginary woman’ called ‘Pandora’ is the root cause of misfortune of human beings. The Greeks considered women to be subhuman and inferior to men. Though chastity of women was precious, and women were held in high esteem, the Greeks were later overwhelmed by ego and sexual perversions. Prostitution became a regular practice amongst all classes of Greek society.
3. Roman Civilization:
When Roman Civilization was at the zenith of its ‘glory’, a man even had the right to take the life of his wife. Prostitution and nudity were common amongst the Romans.
4. Egyptian Civilization:
The Egyptian considered women evil and as a sign of a devil.
5. Pre-Islamic Arabia:
Before Islam spread in Arabia, the Arabs looked down upon women and very often when a female child was born, she was buried alive.

2. Islam uplifted women and gave them equality and expects them to maintain their status.
Islam uplifted the status of women and granted them their just rights 1400 years ago. Islam expects women to maintain their status.
Hijaab for men
People usually only discuss ‘hijaab’ in the context of women. However, in the Glorious Qur’an, Allah (swt) first mentions ‘hijaab’ for men before ‘hijaab’ for the women. The Qur’an mentions in Surah Noor:
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do."
[Al-Qur’an 24:30]
The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.
Hijaab for women.
The next verse of Surah Noor, says:
" And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons..."
[Al-Qur’an 24:31]

3. Six criteria for Hijaab.
According to Qur’an and Sunnah there are basically six criteria for observing hijaab:
1. Extent:

The first criterion is the extent of the body that should be covered. This is different for men and women. The extent of covering obligatory on the male is to cover the body at least from the navel to the knees. For women, the extent of covering obligatory is to cover the complete body except the face and the hands upto the wrist. If they wish to, they can cover even these parts of the body. Some scholars of Islam insist that the face and the hands are part of the obligatory extent of ‘hijaab’.
All the remaining five criteria are the same for men and women.
2. The clothes worn should be loose and should not reveal the figure.
3. The clothes worn should not be transparent such that one can see through them.
4. The clothes worn should not be so glamorous as to attract the opposite sex.
5. The clothes worn should not resemble that of the opposite sex.
6. The clothes worn should not resemble that of the unbelievers i.e. they should not wear clothes that are specifically identities or symbols of the unbelievers’ religions.

4. Hijaab includes conduct and behaviour among other things
Complete ‘hijaab’, besides the six criteria of clothing, also includes the moral conduct, behaviour, attitude and intention of the individual. A person only fulfilling the criteria of ‘hijaab’ of the clothes is observing ‘hijaab’ in a limited sense. ‘Hijaab’ of the clothes should be accompanied by ‘hijaab’ of the eyes, ‘hijaab’ of the heart, ‘hijaab’ of thought and ‘hijaab’ of intention. It also includes the way a person walks, the way a person talks, the way he behaves, etc.

5. Hijaab prevents molestation
The reason why Hijaab is prescribed for women is mentioned in the Qur’an in the following verses of Surah Al-Ahzab:
"O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad); that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
[Al-Qur’an 33:59]
The Qur’an says that Hijaab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.

6. Example of twin sisters
Suppose two sisters who are twins, and who are equally beautiful, walk down the street. One of them is attired in the Islamic hijaab i.e. the complete body is covered, except for the face and the hands up to the wrists. The other sister is wearing western clothes, a mini skirt or shorts. Just around the corner there is a hooligan or ruffian who is waiting for a catch, to tease a girl. Whom will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijaab or the girl wearing the skirt or the mini? Naturally he will tease the girl wearing the skirt or the mini. Such dresses are an indirect invitation to the opposite sex for teasing and molestation. The Qur’an rightly says that hijaab prevents women from being molested.

7. Capital punishment for the rapists
Under the Islamic shariah, a man convicted of having raped a woman, is given capital punishment. Many are astonished at this ‘harsh’ sentence. Some even say that Islam is a ruthless, barbaric religion! I have asked a simple question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose, God forbid, someone rapes your wife, your mother or your sister. You are made the judge and the rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said they would put him to death. Some went to the extent of saying they would torture him to death. To them I ask, if someone rapes your wife or your mother you want to put him to death. But if the same crime is committed on somebody else’s wife or daughter you say capital punishment is barbaric. Why should there be double standards?

8. Western society falsely claims to have uplifted women
Western talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul, and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture’.

9. USA has one of the highest rates of rape
United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. It also has one of the highest rates of rape in any country in the world. According to a FBI report, in the year 1990, every day on an average 1756 cases of rape were committed in U.S.A alone. Later another report said that on an average everyday 1900 cases of rapes are committed in USA. The year was not mentioned. May be it was 1992 or 1993. May be the Americans got ‘bolder’ in the following years.
Consider a scenario where the Islamic hijaab is followed in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic hijaab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrist. After this if any man commits rape he is given capital punishment. I ask you, in such a scenario, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same, or will it decrease?

10. Implementation of Islamic Shariah will reduce the rate of rapes
Naturally as soon as Islamic Shariah is implemented positive results will be inevitable. If Islamic Shariah is implemented in any part of the world, whether it is America or Europe, society will breathe easier. Hijaab does not degrade a woman but uplifts a woman and protects her modesty and chastity.
Source: www.irf.net
ibrahim

PAKISTAN
Posted - Sunday, October 3, 2004  -  3:41 PM Reply with quote
I would request All the brothers & sisters participating in this TOPIC that please just go through our NEW course “Norms of Gender Interaction” 1st & then say your opinion. It would be much better & more fruitful debate then. For course details just click the following link:
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jxmedina

USA
Posted - Tuesday, October 5, 2004  -  9:01 PM Reply with quote
Assalaamu Alaikum All,

(I have completed the Norms of Gender Interaction course.)

I made the decision to wear hijab a long time ago. I must say it was the most liberating experience i have felt as a woman. I work for my state government, so there are many questions about why i cover my hair and dress with big dresses (jilbabs and abayas) all the time. I don't get these uestions so much anymore. muslim, i love seeing women in hijab, although i do not like seeing younger girl wearing scarves covering their hair but they are wearing skin tight jeans and tight tops that outline their entire figure. More isee this problem with young muslimahs here. I love being able to identify another muhajabat and greet her with "Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah." It is a blessing. Wearing hijab comforts me in knowing I am protecting myself from unwanted things, I am covering, protecting and guarding what is for my husband's eyes. I think about how Allah will judge me, so I seek His guidance and it led me to wearing hijab. I found that i have always had strong character, but since covering I gained a new sense of pride and self-respect. I walked straighter. I felt stronger. My attire was another reminder to walk on the sirataal mustaqueem. Ajmal, thanks foy your post, especially section 5. Sometimes here we have problems understnading this aspect of hijab. Even when i go to the masjid qith the other sisters for Jummuah prayer and khutba. We bring a long extra clothing to let some girls borrow when they comes dressed inappropriately (although their hair is covered). I will print out your post and share it with the sisters nshaAllah. Barak Allahu Fik. May Allah bless you and us all.

Jameelah
muslim

CANADA
Posted - Thursday, October 7, 2004  -  1:59 AM Reply with quote
aslam o alaikum,
thankyou sister jameela for the reply.You are right.
can we have more responses plz from what Muslim asked?especially we would like apointof viewof those who are not in favour of hijab
tweety

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Thursday, December 30, 2004  -  5:54 PM Reply with quote
quote:

Dear sisters and brothers,
why is there the thinking about women that they are not equal to men? For example, when playing games, I am told by westerners that my brother would be better just because he's a boy, and that he would be better at cooking, building things and AT many other things, he is four years younger, yet they don't see the age just the gender. Is it the same way in Islamic countries? Are women thought to be bad at things just because they are females? Are they meant to be that way by Allah. Shoudn't they take more responsibilities sinse they are older than their younger brothers?


salaamz
in response 2 this
id say that islam clearly states ther is no difference between a man or a woman as far as deeds etc are concerned
thers no genderism or racism in islam at all
all that counts is the things u do
but the bit wher u sed are women bad at things jst cuz theyr female
i think i no wher u got that misinterpritation frm
i fink thers an ayah in surah nisa that says if a witness has 2 b calld forward ther shud b 2 women and 1 man 2 stand as witness
this is only becuz women hav so much more responsibilities than men do
children
home
and work besides that
and thats y
2 ease the pressure on 1 person
Allah sed if 1 woman 4gets cuz she has more things 2 do than a man does then let ther b another female witness 2 help out just in case
tho it is true that men are physically stronger than women generally ... but women r better at other things 2 lyk design and stuff lyk that
not gna go in 2 details
but thats as far as teh difference goes
and its kinda disapointing wen families do make differences between their kids if they hav bois they wud credit them more than the girls
they shudnt
and if they do
its not religion that taught em this
but culture
hope that helps ^_^
yvette

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Thursday, January 6, 2005  -  1:42 PM Reply with quote
Dear Brothers and Sisters
Asalaam Alaikum. I find the discussion of wearing hijaab a very interesting one. I am a revert to Islam, Alhamdulillah, and I wore hijaab from day one. I thought long and hard and sought guidance. My family are non muslim, white, British and and non-religous. They went mad, and refused to be seen with me. My mother and my brothers thought that I was repressed by my husband and my religion. They spoke to me as if I were stupid. It mattered not as I say time and time again when asked about repression 'I cover my hair, not my mind'. I feel more liberated with my hijaab on than I do without it. I live now in a very small area in Devon on the South Coast of England. The only hijaab wearing Muslimahs I see are rare occasions when there are students in the area. I have been called names, spat on, but have never returned home and decided to remove my scarf from that point. I think that now my hijaab is an inherent part of who I am now, keeps me focused, heightens my deen and I love wearing it!
tweety

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, January 29, 2005  -  11:44 PM Reply with quote
salaamz sister yvette
im glad u feel that way ^_^ and im sorry u had 2 come across ppl that were intolerant enuf of ur belief 2 spit on u...but im glad allah blessed u with a patient heart 2 keep at watever ur doing :D
b4 i started wearing a scarf...i always noticed how the girls in hijaabs look so much more prettier or a lot more elegant with the scarf
and its nt jst the scarf ofcourse
its the modest clothing and attitude that 'comes with the package'
and it reflects such decency i think ppl envy it..and far from apressing us
it gains us respect and acts as a veil against every evil thing that this society has in it...
its lyk a protective shield
not only that
but its s symbol of unity
i feel gr8 wenever i c another hijaaby walking dwn the street..it makes me feel gud 2 no thers another 1 out ther not ashamed 2 b proud of wat and hu they r!
and im very glad 2 b a part of that community 2 alhamdulillah
**i hope u chek out the website!!**

Edited by: tweety on Monday, January 31, 2005 8:40 PM
SananK

USA
Posted - Saturday, July 23, 2005  -  2:57 AM Reply with quote
Asslamu Alaikum brothers and sisters. I give big props to sisters who wear Hijabs. I know how some guy's think, i got tons of guy friends from different cultures/religions. They will never comment a sister with Hijab as they would to one that does not wear it. I guess it does protect women from a guy's RUDE comments and thoughts and protects her beauty from the evil thoughts of man. Most men do not have respect for women nowadays, especially young ones. They'd say things they shouldnt. And the Hijab is like a forcefield its hard for them to penetrate through. Like a protection. I know I have a sister, and i wouldnt want some of these losers to say bad things about her. If I had a daughter someday when i got married inshAllah, I certainly would not want losers to think/imagine or say something about her in a wrong way. These days it's common for those garbage thoughts with all that garbage floating around us in public/tv etc etc.. I am really cautious when my sister passes a guy and he looks at her in a wrong way or stares and i get defensive. I don't care if he is Muslim, it is taught to lower our gaze which some do not do. So I stare at him and make him lower his gaze to make him get the picture in his head that what he is doing is not appreciated.

Assalamu Alaikum :)
iloveshariah

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, August 27, 2005  -  12:44 PM Reply with quote
Hijab is compulsary for every muslimah of every time. And Inshallah those who are not wearing it may you one day wear Hijab.
tweety

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Saturday, August 27, 2005  -  12:48 PM Reply with quote
i think alot of people dont realise wat the word hijaab actualy means
it means modesty
women hav to wear clothes that cover their chest, are loose fited and maintain their MODESTY
they dont have to wear a jilbab etc becuz this comes from arab CULTURE
and as far as a head scarf is concerned- ive seen a lot of ppl wearin a scarf bt their clothes r so tight its unbelievable
so i agree HIJAAB is compulsry bt not the headscarf
the women of arabia in the prophet (SAW)s time used 2 hava clothe over their hed and the prophet told them to drop it over their chest too
many ppl jst need 2 remember- the scarf may b in islam bt islam isnt in the scarf
im not belittling the importance of the scarf
its a sacred symbol of modesty and muslim women for thousands of years
but hijaab comes before the scarf- so dont confuse the two plz

Edited by: Ibrahim on Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:17 PM
ibrahim

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, August 27, 2005  -  1:27 PM Reply with quote
quote:

Hijab is compulsary for every muslimah of every time. And Inshallah those who are not wearing it may you one day wear Hijab.
Well, If the kind GOD had NOT made it Compulsory then WHY u want to keep it Compulsory for yourself & all other MUSLIM ladies. Any woman CAN wear hijab if she wants & likes to do so BUT plz keep it where GOD has kept it. It's the MODESTY whose CARE has been MADE compulsory for BOTH men & women.
Loveall

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, August 30, 2005  -  11:36 PM Reply with quote
QUOTE (ajmal): - The Qur’an says that Hijaab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women and this will also prevent them from being molested.
QUOTE (ajmal): - Hijaab does not degrade a woman but uplifts a woman and protects her modesty and chastity.

I agree to the statements.
iloveshariah

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Wednesday, August 31, 2005  -  1:34 AM Reply with quote
Asslamualikum,
Wonederful post by in particular sisters ummjuwayriyah ,Zeenaeem and Muslim.

It just shows when enemies of Islam attack Hijab. It makes us more determined to defend Islam and learn Islam. They Plan and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of Planers. Allahuakbar

Keep up the good work.


JazakaAllah khair

A few Very good articles i found were on Hijab and stories of Hijabis Proof that Hijab is fard for All Muslim women for all times

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