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Minara
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 Posted - Monday, May 29, 2006 - 9:24 AM 
Salam to All,
What was the Sunnah of Prophet(pbuh)?
I think that you people are very much interested about prophetic hadith(which have no basis in the Nobel Qur'an)rather than God given Quran!!
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usmani790
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Posted - Monday, May 29, 2006 - 10:33 AM
Quote:I think that you people are very much interested about prophetic hadith(which have no basis in the Nobel Qur'an)rather than God given Quran!!
Reply:-Could you provide any evidence from Quran in support of your Claim or this is your personnel view. |
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Minara
INDIA
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Posted - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 8:30 AM
salam
Answer:- Could you give me any single reference from the Quran wherein it is said that muslim should follow prophetic hadith besides quran as their religious source?
Minara
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Quote:I think that you people are very much interested about prophetic hadith(which have no basis in the Nobel Qur'an)rather than God given Quran!!
Reply:-Could you provide any evidence from Quran in support of your Claim or this is your personnel view.
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usmani790
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Posted - Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:08 AM
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Minara
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Posted - Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 11:45 AM
Salam,
Brother I simply demanded from you a single verse from the Quran in support of your opinion. I did not ask for any web address from you.
I say you again, please give me a single verse from the Quran in support of your opinion.
If you don't be able to give the same then please leave the matter here.
Minara
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Walaikum Salam
Please refer to the following link.I hope will help you.
http://www.ccminc.faithweb.com/iqra/articles/authsun/chap1.html
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usmani790
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Posted - Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 4:59 AM
Allâh has surely blessed the believers with His favor when He raised in their midst a Messenger from among themselves, who recites to them His verses and makes them pure and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom, while they were, earlier in open error. (3:164)
He (Allâh) is the One who raised up, among the unlettered, a Messenger from among themselves who recites the verses of Allâh, and makes them pure, and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom. (62:2)
The same functions were attributed to the Holy Prophet (pbuh) in the prayer of Sayyidna Ibrahim (pbuh) when, according to the Holy Qur’ân, he prayed:
Our Lord, raise in their midst a messenger from among themselves who recites to them Your verses and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom and purifies them… (2:129)
These are the terms of reference given to the Holy Prophet (pbuh) which include four distinct functions and the Holy Prophet (pbuh) has been entrusted with all of them:
(1) Recitation of the Verses of Allâh.
(2) Teaching the Book of Allâh.
(3) Teaching the Wisdom.
(4) Making the people pure.
Thus, the Holy Qur’ân leaves no ambiguities in the fact that the Holy Prophet (pbuh) is not supposed to merely recite the verses and then leave it to the people to interpret and apply them in whatever manner they like. Instead, he is sent to “teach” the Book. Then, since teaching the Book is not enough, he is also required to teach “Wisdom” which is something additional to the “Book.” Still, this is not enough, therefore the Holy Prophet (pbuh) has also to “make the people pure,” meaning thereby that the theoretical teaching of the Book and the “Wisdom” must be followed by a practical training to enable the people to apply the Book and the Wisdom in the way Allâh requires them to apply.
These verses of the Holy Qur’ân describe the following functions of the Holy Prophet (pbuh):
(a) He is the authority in the way the Holy Book [the Qur’ân] has to be recited.
(b) He has the final word in the interpretation of the Book.
(c) He is the only source at which the wisdom based on divine guidance can be learned.
(d) He is entrusted with the practical training of the people to bring his teachings into practice.
These functions of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) can never be carried out unless his teachings, both oral and practical, are held to be authoritative for his followers, and the Muslims who are given under his training are made bound to obey and follow him. The functions (b) and (c), namely, the teaching of the Book and Wisdom require that his sayings should be binding on the followers, while the function (d), the practical training, requires that his acts should be an example for the Ummah, and the Ummah should be bound to follow it.
It is not merely a logical inference from the verses of the Holy Qur’ân quoted above, but it is also mentioned in express terms by the Holy Qur’ân in a large number of verses which give the Muslims a mandatory command to obey and follow him. While doing so, the Holy Qur’ân has used two different terms, namely the “itaa’ah” (to obey) and “ittibaa’” (to follow). The first term refers to the orders and sayings of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) while the second relates to his acts and practice. By ordering the Muslims both to “obey” and to “follow” the Holy Prophet (pbuh), the Holy Qur’ân has given an authority to both his sayings and acts. |
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Shaan
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Posted - Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 6:11 AM
Mr. Mufti Taqi Usmani had put forward good arguments.But the problem is that there are no explanations of ALL the verses of Quran in Hadith literature! Furthermore the ahadith are also classified into 4 categories according to their authenticity i.e. Sahih,Hasan,Daeef and Mawdoo.Even more strange is that this classification is subjective.Some ahadith are classified as Sahih by some scholars and Daeef by some others!
Imagine what would have happened if Quran were like this.Sahih aayah,Hasan aaya,Daeef aaya and Mawdoo aaya! Mr. Mufti Taqi Usmani's arguments would certainly have been valid if we had a book of explanations of Quran along with the Quran equally authentic as Quran and written long before Imam Bukhari and other muhadditheen started collecting hadith. |
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usmani790
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Posted - Friday, June 2, 2006 - 6:29 AM
Dear Shan
Quote: -Mr. Mufti Taqi Usmani had put forward good arguments. But the problem is that there are no explanations of ALL the verses of Quran in Hadith literature! Furthermore the ahadith are also classified into 4 categories according to their authenticity i.e. Sahih, Hasan,Daeef and Mawdoo.Even more strange is that this classification is subjective.Some ahadith are classified as Sahih by some scholars and Daeef by some others!
Reply: - Go for the Sahih and Hasan ahagith. This gold in its orignal form is not like that. Firstly people do all the hard work to find it, then its goes with many process before it comes in this shape. For the worldly benefit how hard we worked.24 carit we used it, 22 carat we use it and so on.No one through it because it not 100% pure.
As far as ahadith are, earlier people had already done all the hard job. There is no comparison of gold and words of Prophet (pbuh). When people talk about ahadith like that, I knows its not them but its shatan who creating doubts in their minds and want to stop them to get any benefit from it. Allah Says follows the Prophet (pbuh) so you will find the right path. So please believe in Allah and believe in ahadtih.
How we can benefited from ahadith. For example the neighbor, every good person behave them in a good manner without consulting the ahadith. But if we study the ahadith so it gives us in black and whites the duties towards our neighbors. It tell us that if some one in our neighbors is sick, so we should do the (Ayadat) and how the (Ayadat) is defined in ahadith are really beautiful. Don’t sit there too long there and if he is your friend and if he feeling good in your company so you can sit longer.There are many other things which we can find in ahadith.
If you will study the life of sahaba, you will surprise to know that how much the ahadith were importent for them.
Quote-Imagine what would have happened if Quran were like this.Sahih aayah,Hasan aaya,Daeef aaya and Mawdoo aaya! Mr. Mufti Taqi Usmani's arguments would certainly have been valid if we had a book of explanations of Quran along with the Quran equally authentic as Quran and written long before Imam Bukhari and other muhadditheen started collecting hadith.
Reply:-This is Allah job its works as He wishes and there is always some Hikmah in that which some times we unable to understand. This should be enough for us that lots of verses of Quran calling for ahadith.
We should follow ahadith to the best of our capacity and surely there will be a big reward waiting for us in the Hereafter. |
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Minara
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Posted - Friday, June 2, 2006 - 12:24 PM
Dear Usmani,
Salam,
I red your post very carefully. You referred many verses from the Qur’an, but it did not appear from even a single verse, which you referred that Muslim should follow prophet hadith besides Quran as their religious source. Rather Quran says very clearly that we should not follow ANYTHING as our religious source besides Quran;
006:114 Khan [Say (O Muhammad SAW)] "Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you THE BOOK (THE QUR'AN), EXPLAINED IN DETAIL." Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth. So be not you of those who doubt.
006:114 Maulana Shall I then seek a judge other than Allah, when He it is WHO HAS SENT DOWN TO YOU THE BOOK FULLY EXPLAINED. And those whom We have given the Book know that it is revealed by thy Lord with truth, so be not thou of the disputers.
006:114 Pickthal Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is WHO HATH REVEALED UNTO YOU (THIS) SCRIPTURE, FULLY EXPLAINED? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou (O Muhammad) of the waverers
Almighty Allah further explains:
"And We have revealed the Book to you which has the clear explanation of everything , and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit." (16:89)
“And certainly We have brought them a Book, which We have detailed with knowledge , a guidance and mercy for a people who believe” (7:52)
“A Book of which the verses are distinctly detailed , an Arabic Qur’an for people who know” (41:3)
“Indeed We have made the verses detailed for a people who take reminder ” (6:126)
2ND POINT:- Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was not the teacher of Quran and also he did not explain IT by outside source. Almighty Allah is the teacher & HE explained of the Quran. Prophet(pbuh) taught the quran to his people what he learnt from Almighty God. That means Almighty Allah taught and explained the Quran to him and he taught and explained the same to his people. It was not that he taught and explained the quran to his people by his another personal sayings called hadith! Nowhere in the quran says so. He explained the verses of Quran with the verses of Quran not anything else. Quran itself is FULLY DETAILED AND EXPLAINED. We do not require any outside source for detailing a BOOK which has already been detailed by Almighty Allah!!
THE MESSENGER DELIVERED THE MESSAGE OF GOD(THE QURAN) AND BEFORE HE CAME THE PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THE SCRIPTURE, SO IN THAT RESPECT HE HAS BROUGHT TO THEM THE WORD OF GOD AND TAUGHT THEM WHAT THEY DID NOT KNOW. So in this way he was a teacher. But no verse of the quran means that the messenger set up his own teachings or interpretations in an independent reference to exists besides quran.
To get the complete/real picture we must read ALL THE RELEVANT VERSES and not just one or two. Thus we must also read 55:1-2, 75:19 & 5:92
The verses 55:1-2 says;
Sarwar The Beneficent (God) has taught the Quran to (Muhammad).
Shakir The Beneficent Allah, Taught the Quran.
Sherali The Gracious God. HE taught the Qur'an.
Yusufali (Allah) Most Gracious! It is He Who has taught the Qur'an.
Rashad The Most Gracious. Teacher of the Quran.
Verse 75:19 says;
Rashad Then it is we who will explain it.
Sarwar We shall be responsible for its explanation.
Shakir Again on Us (devolves) the explaining of it.
Sherali Then upon US rests the expounding thereof.
Yusufali Nay more, it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear):
Verse 5:92 says;
Rashad You shall obey GOD, and you shall obey the messenger, and
beware. If you turn away, then know that the SOLE DUTY OF
OUR MESSENGER IS TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE EFFICIENTLY.
Sarwar Obey God and the Messenger and be cautious (of the harmful
things). If you turn away (from Our laws), know that the duty of
the Messenger is only to preach in clear words.
Shakir And obey Allah and obey the messenger and be cautious; but if
you turn back, THEN KNOW THAT ONLY A CLEAR DELIVERANCE
OF THE MESSAGE IS (INCUMBENT) ON OUR MESSENGER.
Sherali And obey ALLAH and obey the Messenger, and be on your
guard. but if you turn away, THEN KNOW THAT ON OUR
MESSENGER LIES ONLY THE CLEAR CONVEYANCE OF THE
MESSAGE.
Yusufali Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and beware (of evil): if ye
do turn back, KNOW YE THAT IT IS OUR MESSENGER'S DUTY
TO PROCLAIM (THE MESSAGE) IN THE CLEAREST MANNER.
3RD POINT:- Wisdom is not additional to the Book(Quran). Please read;
"Remember God’s blessings upon you, and what He sent down to you of the ‘Al-Ketab’ and ‘Al-Hekmah’ to enlighten you with it." 2:231
Literally speaking, the meaning of ‘Al-Ketab’ is the book (the Quran), and ‘Al-Hekmah’ is wisdom.
Now let us see whether ‘Al-Ketab and Al-Hekmah’ are two different things or not.
The word ‘bihee’ (with it) that appear at the end of the verse, is in the singular mode, in other words it describes one thing and not two. For that reason the words ‘Al-Hekmah’ and ‘Al-Ketab’ must denote one thing and not two.
If the words ‘‘Al-Hekmah’and ‘Al-Ketab’ really referred to the Quran and the other source, then the verse should grammatically end with the word ‘bihima’ (with them), which is the plural mode of ‘bihee’.
Throughout the Quran we are told that the only revelation sent down to Muhammad was the Quran. Consequently, the words "what He sent down to you of the ‘Al-Ketab’ and ‘Al-Hekmah’ in 2:31 cannot denote the Quran and the other books, this is because the hadith etc. are NOT the revelation. The words "He sent down to you" make it clear that the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ cannot be speaking about the hadith of Muhammad.
The word ‘Al-Hekmah’ is used throughout the Quran as an adjective of the ‘Al-Kitab’ (the Quran). This is made evident in the following verses :
"Y.S., and the Quran Al-Hakim" 36:1-2
"This is what We recite to you of the ‘Ayat’ and the ‘Zekr Al-Hakim" 3:58
"A.L.R., these are the signs of the ‘Ketab Al-Hakim" 10:1 also 31:2
The same word ‘Al-Hekmah’ is used in the Quran in connection with prophets and messengers who lived before the time of Muhammad (P.B.U.H.). Obviously before Muhammad lived his hadith did not exist. Thus to say that ‘Al-Hekmah’ means hadith of Muhammad is incorrect. Consider the following verses:
"And I taught you the ‘Ketab’ (Scripture) and ‘Al-Hekmah’(wisdom)." 5:110
Clearly the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ here does not mean the hadith of Muhammad.
"Our Lord, and send for them a messenger from among them to recite to them your ‘Ayat’ and teach them the ‘Ketab’ (Scripture) and ‘Al-Hekmah’ (wisdom)." 2:129
Again the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ here could not mean anything but wisdom. Abraham had no knowledge of the hadith of Muhammad.
A further evidence that the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ as used in the Quran means wisdom and not hadith is found in the following verse:
"He bestows ‘Al-Hekmah’ upon whoever He pleases, and whoever attains ‘Al-Hekmah’ has indeed attained a great blessing." 2:269
The words "whoever He pleases" in this verse indicate that God bestows ‘Al-Hekmah’ upon any of the believers and not just His messengers. If we assume that ‘Al-Hekmah’ means the hadith or any other thing we would have to believe that any ordinary believer may also have his own personal hadith…. that has to be followed by other believers! This of course is not the case. The verse would instead make full sense if we think of ‘Al-Hekmah’ in its proper meaning as wisdom.
Finally, the word ‘Al-Hekmah’ in any Arabic dictionary means WISDOM. To leave the literal and direct meaning and accept a manipulated meaning is to reject the truth of the Quran.
4TH POINT:- Obey messenger does not mean obey his(pbuh) personal sayings. Obey messenger means obey the MESSAGE which he brought to this world i.e. Quran and nothing else.
2ndly, there is no absolute proof that the prophetic hadith, which exist today, are originally told by prophet(pbuh). For example Bukhari hadith were collected more than 200 years after the death of prophet(pbuh). Whatever may be, the main point or the most important matter here is that Almighty God says that quran is fully detailed and explained by HIM & we should not take any other source as source of religious law besides quran,
We always hear, "Obey God and obey the messenger..." but never "Obey God and
Obey Muhammed ." What is the difference , if any.?
Let us find out first if God mentioned Muhammed by name in the Quran. We know, He did, actually four times. In 3:144, 33:40, 47:2 and 48:29. How many times did God tell us to "Obey the messenger" ? There are more
than 25 times in the Quran, where God ordered us to obey the messenger. Not a
single time did God say "Obey Muhammed"
Is this a co-incidnce or a deliberate order?
Only true believers know that everything in God's world is deliberate, nothing is a co-incidence. Let us find out what God is teaching us about Muhammed.
"Say, (O Muhammed) "I am no more than a human being like you...." 18:110
God Almighty knowing that the Prophet Muhammed is a human being like
us, will live his life and run his business like any human being would. He would make
mistakes, get angry, have fears, ...etc. Muhammed the human being was the
messenger only because of the message given to him, the QURAN.
Muhammed without the Quran is just another human being like us. God wants it to be very clear to obey the person that has the message, the Quran, for what he has not
for who he is.
Obey the messenger is conditional on having the message, the Quran.
Obey the messenger because of the message he has, the QURAN.
Obey the messenger means to follow his message that is given to him, the QURAN.
Muhammed without the message is just a regular human being, he frowned
and turned away when the blind poor man came to him, (See 80:1-11), he feared the
people when he was supposed to fear only God, (See 33:37), and he prohibited what he
should not prohibit, (See 66:1)
That is why there has never been a single order in the Quran from God,the Most
Cognizant to "Obey Muhammed." If we were to obey Muhammed the human
being,(not the messenger), we were to frown at the poor, fear the people instead
of God and prohibit what God did not. We are required to obey the messenger,
because it is the message (QURAN) that made the obedience a requirement, not the
person, Muhammed, that made it a requirement.
One great example of the distinction between obeying the messenger (For what he has)
(the Quran) and obeying the human being, is what God told Muhammed's wives; in Sura 33,
"O wives of the prophet, if any of you commits gross sin, the
retribution will be doubled for her. This is easy for God to do.
Any one of you who obeys GOD and His MESSENGER, and
leads a righteous life, we will grant her double the recompense,
and we have prepared for her a generous provision." 33:30-31
Notice the order here for the prophet's wives to obey the Messenger, not their husband
or Muhammed. If God would have said to them to obey their husband, the unconditional obedience of the wife to her husband would have been decreed.
If God would have said, obey Muhammed, it would have made the unconditional
obedience of Muhammed a decree. God wants them and wants us to obey the messenger (for the message he has, the QURAN).
Muhammed the human being was given the great honor of being chosen the final prophet of God to deliver the final message, the QURAN, and was described as "blessed with a great moral character" in 68:4.
We, however have to remember not to make any distinction between him and the rest of
God's messengers, See 2:285. We are to make the distinction between obeying him by
following his message and obeying him by following allegation of what he did as a human being in his own personal life.
YES, we should obey the messenger. Those who accept the Quran accept the order from
God to "obey the messenger" by following his message, the Quran ALONE. When the prophet Muhammed died, he left for us ONLY one book, the Quran.
When God told Muhammed in the Quran, "Today I completed your religion for you",
Muhammed had only one book at that time, the Quran. Muhammed gave us one kind of
Islam, that we can find in the book of God, the Quran. He did not leave for us the other
sects of Sunni, Shiite, Ahmaddya, Ismailis…etc. These sects were created when the Muslims
looked for the books of hadiths to supplement the book of God. In doing so, they willingly or unwillingly declared that they do not trust God in His
own book. The book that God described as complete, perfect, fully detailed and having
details of everything. See 12:111By doing so, all these sects left God’s kingdom and joined the same groups who previously corrupted the other religions of God, Judaism and Christianity.
It is very interesting to know that God gave us this prophecy in the Quran and told us the messenger will complain to Him on the Last Day that "My people have deserted this Quran." 25:30
"...this is not a fabricated Hadith, this (QURAN) confirms all previous scriptures,
provides the details of everything, and is a beacon and mercy for those
who believe." 12:111
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Shaan
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Posted - Friday, June 2, 2006 - 5:18 PM
Quote: - Go for the Sahih and Hasan ahagith. This gold in its orignal form is not like that. Firstly people do all the hard work to find it, then its goes with many process before it comes in this shape. For the worldly benefit how hard we worked.24 carit we used it, 22 carat we use it and so on.No one through it because it not 100% pure.
Reply:- Who's saying that we should throw away all the invaluable work done by the great muhaditheen of which there is no example in the history of the world.Ahadith are our heritage and we are proud of it.
My point was that only Quran and Sunnah are the sources of Shariah.Ahadith in principle can only explain and elucidate these two sources.
Quote: - As far as ahadith are, earlier people had already done all the hard job. There is no comparison of gold and words of Prophet (pbuh). When people talk about ahadith like that, I knows its not them but its shatan who creating doubts in their minds and want to stop them to get any benefit from it. Allah Says follows the Prophet (pbuh) so you will find the right path. So please believe in Allah and believe in ahadtih.
Reply : - There is absolutely no reason not to believe in Ahadith.Every person wether muslim or non-muslim should study and benefit from this great work.
Quote : - If you will study the life of sahaba, you will surprise to know that how much the ahadith were importent for them.
Reply : - I've studied the life of sahaba and I'm not surprised that they gave importance to ahadith.Everybody should give importance to ahadith.
Quote : - This is Allah job its works as He wishes and there is always some Hikmah in that which some times we unable to understand. This should be enough for us that lots of verses of Quran calling for ahadith.
Reply : - Not a satisfactory answer.There is no verse in Quran which calls for ahadith.The only person from which we get divine guidance is Prophet Muhammad (sws) . That is why Quran and Sunnah are the sources of shariah.
Quote : - We should follow ahadith to the best of our capacity and surely there will be a big reward waiting for us in the Hereafter.
Reply : - Muslims all over the globe have always followed ahadith indirectly because the ahadith are also a secondary source of Sunnah besides being the only source of information about the times of the holy prophet(sws), sahaba (ra)a and the tabieen. |
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usmani790
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Posted - Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 7:17 AM
Quote: - Who's saying that we should throw away all the invaluable work done by the great muhaditheen of which there is no example in the history of the world. Ahadith are our heritage and we are proud of it.
My point was that only Quran and Sunnah are the sources of Shariah.Ahadith in principle can only explain and elucidate these two sources.
Reply: -Your point has no value unless it is supported by Quran,Sunnah or any leading Islamic scholar of past or present. It’s a satanic idea which this web site is coming up with. They are calling ahadith record of history and only a reference guide. While it was not the understanding of sahabah, four Imams and the leading scholars of present and past. Ahadith are the written record of “saying, actions and confirmation given by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).”and that what Sunnah of Prophet (pbuh) is all about.
They only presenting their own views using their aqil only which has no support from Quran,Sunnah and Great scholars of Islam.I don’t know what are reasons behind that and to whom they want to pleased. They know or Allah knows.
Quote: - I've studied the life of sahaba and I'm not surprised that they gave importance to ahadith.Everybody should give importance to ahadith.
Reply: -Then you have missed that for them Quran and Ahadith were equally important. The Companions of the Prophet, peace be upon him, used to hold the commandments given by the Prophet, peace be upon him, in a very high esteem, making no distinctions between them and those given by God.
Quote: - Not a satisfactory answer. There is no verse in Quran that calls for ahadith. The only person from which we get divine guidance is Prophet Muhammad (sws). That is why Quran and Sunnah are the sources of shariah.
Reply:-I think there is a misunderstanding here.When I say hadith or Ahadith, so I mean that sayings and actions of Prophet(pbuh).All the Quran verses which are calling for obedience of Prophet(pbuh) and Taqi Usmani sahib have quoted all the verses in his book,some of which I have quoted here all are referring to Ahadith.If not where else we should refer for these verses if not in the Ahadith or Sunnah.(Authentic Ahadith and Sunnah are the same thing)
Edited by: usmani790 on Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:32 AM |
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Shaan
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Posted - Saturday, June 3, 2006 - 9:25 AM
Quote: -Your point has no value unless it is supported by Quran,Sunnah or any leading Islamic scholar of past or present. It’s a satanic idea which this web site is coming up with. They are calling ahadith record of history and only a reference guide. While it was not the understanding of sahabah, four Imams and the leading scholars of present and past. Ahadith are the written record of “saying, actions and confirmation given by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).”and that what Sunnah of Prophet (pbuh) is all about.
Reply :- My view is supported by both the Quran and Ahadith.
Iam posting mafhoom of the hadith because I don't have the reference with me right now
:-The Holy Prophet(sws) said I'm leaving you with two things.Quran and Sunnah cling on to that........"
Quran says(the meaning of which is) :- Whatever the prophet (sws) gives you take it and whatever the prophet forbids you abstain from it.
And there are several other verses which commands us to follow the prophet(sws) for he is the one and only person whom the shariah is taken from.
Quote :- They only presenting their own views using their aqil only which has no support from Quran,Sunnah and Great scholars of Islam.I don’t know what are reasons behind that and to whom they want to pleased. They know or Allah knows.
Reply :- The sciences of Hadith and Fiqh are also based on aqil for your kind information.These were later developed by our great muhaditheen and fuqaha (may Allah have mercy on them).The prophet(sws) taught Quran and Sunnah to his ummah ,not sciences.
Quote :- Then you have missed that for them Quran and Ahadith were equally important. The Companions of the Prophet, peace be upon him, used to hold the commandments given by the Prophet, peace be upon him, in a very high esteem, making no distinctions between them and those given by God.
Reply :- Yes and that's why they gave it utmost importance becuase as I said earlier obedience to the prophet(sws) is obedience to Allah .
Quote :- I think there is a misunderstanding here.When I say hadith or Ahadith, so I mean that sayings and actions of Prophet(pbuh).All the Quran verses which are calling for obedience of Prophet(pbuh) and Taqi Usmani sahib have quoted all the verses in his book,some of which I have quoted here all are referring to Ahadith.If not where else we should refer for these verses if not in the Ahadith or Sunnah.(Authentic Ahadith and Sunnah are the same thing)
Reply :- The Quran calls on for obedience to the prophet (sws)..As I said earlier acting on Sunnah is equal to acting on Ahadith indirectly because Ahadith are the secondary source of Sunnah. |
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